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  1. Kaptaan

    Casual Discussion The Beauty of the world (3 photos per post)

    Hunza, Pakistan. Attabad Lake, Karakorum Highway
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    Turkey to build its future with Europe

    And I say it to you guys again. Humans have a habit of looking back and not forward. EU was a product of post WW2 dynamic that brought Germany and France together creating a major economic ecosystem that pulled others into it's orbit and was perfect equilibrium given the Cold War and nicly...
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    Turkey to build its future with Europe

    Of course. But your looking at it from 2020. The reasons you cited were what drove UK public to vote for Brexit. But, but look at it from turn of the millenium. There is Turkey. Been a integral and critical part of NATO. Now look at mob of poor recently freed Warsaw Pact countries. The list is...
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    Turkey to build its future with Europe

    The reason was for that "no" is a topic in it self that probably deserves a thread to address it properly.
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    Turkey to build its future with Europe

    The truth is Turkey was treated with utter disrespect. How could ex-Warsaw Pact enemies and third rate economies like Bulgaria, Romania be allowed into EU when Turkey a NATO member had been trying to get in well before the Iron Curtain came crashing down. The hurdles placed were just convenient...
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    Turkey to build its future with Europe

    One of the argumant pushed by Brexiteers which carry weight was that Europe in relative global terms has shrunk. That is in 1950 the world economy was Atlantic-centric. Today European market is small % of global trade and that % is reducing. To put it bluntly when you have the world at your...
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    Turkey to build its future with Europe

    I think he is smooth operator. yes, you are right EU will never accept Turkey. If there was any possibility it has been killed stone dead by UK leaving EU. Britain has been more understanding of Turks. Now EU is a mule which has it's reins held by France and Germany. As regards ummah I think...
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    Turkey to build its future with Europe

    I think he is a supreme political player who bends, flexes, cavorts and morphs according to the politicial winds. His survivial at the top for nearly two decades is proof of that.
  9. Kaptaan

    Turkey to build its future with Europe

    Many moons ago I was privilaged to attend a lecture by Yusuf Islam or Cat Stevens. His faith shone and his presence was magnetic. Clearly his exposition of Islam was deeply personal. I say this because I have some very religious people in my family and don't want to offend anybody. My gripe is...
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    Turkey to build its future with Europe

    Just to clarify I have no issues with Islam being practiced at a personal level. I have met and know some beautiful souls who draw comfort in their faith but political Islam is altogether another thing. It is when a personal faith is used to enforce on others. That is plain wrong.
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    Turkey to build its future with Europe

    The older I get I become more convinced political Islam is the biggest evil in Pakistan and impediment to progress
  12. Kaptaan

    Turkey to build its future with Europe

    I love using Erdogan as giant beating stick to whip the Pakistani ummah lovin boys and Islamist utopian nutters but looks like my sarcasm was not appreciated.
  13. Kaptaan

    Casual Discussion International Lounge

    This happens often. My dad moved to UK as a student of law at University of London in 1960. Then got married and my mum moved to London in 1962. I was born to parents whose mother tongue was Pakhto/Pashto/Hindko and also speak Urdu. With my dad being a lawyer and my mum a English language...
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    Boris vows to make Britain ‘naval superpower of Europe’ once again

    Yes, you are. I think the big ticket items [the carriers] will make nucleus of a potent force. I don't expect any real wars fought but these things are mostly about flying the flag and keeping the image of UK as a global leader intact. This of course feeds into economic benefits accrued through...
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    Saudi Arabia is pressuring Pakistan to recognize Israel - report

    I don't give a toss what they or their populations do. I just take vicarious pleasure seeing the "gods" fall down like rotten apples. And here I mean the Islamists inside Pakistan who worship these people. Slowly Turkish influence is increasing to the detriment of GCC which has been dominant...
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    Saudi Arabia is pressuring Pakistan to recognize Israel - report

    All this has done a great job of exposing the oily sheikhs.
  17. Kaptaan

    Rule of law?

    Thoughts @Saiyan0321

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