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If I'm not mistaken the production will start by early 2025. We will see the first deliveries to the Turkish armed forces followed by the export market. Maybe by 2027? I don't know the production capability that TAI will have regarding the production of ATAK 2.

Still possible to negotiate even if they have not started production yet. It requires trust from the buyer but possible. If it's the T-129 then Morocco could be one of the buyers. We were close to a deal many times but the engine issues stalled the final agreement.

I wonder if he is referring to the T129 ATAK, or the ATAK 2?

TAI General Manager Prof. Dr. Temel Kotil: HÜRJET is doing very well. Getting ready to fly soon. Within the scope of the project, 2 flyable prototype aircraft and 1 static and 1 fatigue test aircraft are produced to be used in test activities.

TAI General Manager Temel Kotil: In 2023, we will make a surprise in export for TAI. There are four countries that we are negotiating with for the export of ATAK.

TUSAŞ General Manager Temel Kotil: "The Heavy Class Attack Helicopter ATAK-2 will make its first flight in the first months of next year. We are finishing it now."

General Manager Bülent Işık: "We have completed the prototype work of the 30mm electrically driven automatic cannon* developed for the ATAK II (T929), we have started the first product production. It can fire 1, 5, 10, 15, 20 and 50 rounds. It can fire 625 rounds per minute. "

President Erdoğan: "We are launching Anadolu, the largest ship of the navy, for use next year. Serial production of Kızılelma begins, we are removing our National Combat Aircraft from the hangar."

President Erdoğan: "Next year, we are launching our İMECE Satellite and TÜRKSAT-6A, whose design, production, assembly, software and tests were developed entirely with domestic facilities. Thus, we will increase our total number of satellites in space to 10."

Got you! Perhaps Pakistan will get the IP rights based on the Jinnah class, and not the PN Milgem. Awesome deal regardless! I guess we will have to wait for more news :)

Correct! I will quote one of the comments you made a year ago concerning the deal of the PN milgem/babur. "The PN Milgem was 3000 tonnes, and including ToT, training of Pakistani engineers, know-how transfer and IP rights for 4 hulls, the price tag was $1.5B. Holding IP rights means that KS&EW...

True now i remember, the babur class is around 2900 tons! Will the jinnah class be a heavier frigate?

Got you. So 4 ada class under the name of Babur, and 4 Jinnah class frigates tailored to their own needs. So how much for both deals? I have only heard about one deal that @Anmdt mentioned of 1.5 billion usd.

Yes, you are right, I know that the Jinnah class will be similar to the Istanbul class in terms of tonnage, and Turkish sensors. I'm more familiar with the Jinnah class, but not the Babur.

I'm really confused by the terms "Jinnah class", and "Babur class".The only thing I understand is that it's 2 different projects.

The picture is from the headquarters of the Royal Moroccan Navy during the reception of the Pakistani Navy Commander. In the background, we see the world map drawn by the Moroccan scholar Muhammad al-Idrisi in the 12th century , which is considered among the first maps of the world that were...

Where in the Sharia did it neglect the women to study their religion? In fact, the prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him) commanded every Muslim to search for knowledge. His statement does not go in line with the theology of Islam. I know that when the Taliban took over Afghanistan a lot of fake...

If UAE will order 120 TF-X after ordering 80 Rafael then surely Qatar will order more them 35 pieces.

I don't remember the production rate of the TFX, but if I'm not mistaken it was 2 every month. It would also be possible to speed the production rate up to 4 TFX every month. Correct me if I'm wrong!

Counter french interest in Africa. Mali actually told France to withdraw its soldiers on the ground in early 2022.