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  1. GoatsMilk

    Live Conflict Military Operations Syria

    The military developments have become critical, its the one thing if it succeeds it can make up for all these political failures. Idlib was a good example of AK party politics trapping Turkey in a corner. The politics were so bad that the Russians felt so arrogant that they could bomb Turkish...
  2. GoatsMilk

    Live Conflict Military Operations Syria

    Yep, meanwhile the PKK terrorists got completely legitimised on the international stage. The western media branded the Kurds intentionally as one monolithic entity, the good guys who the evil islamist Turks under their islamist despot "enemy of the west" erdogan are committing genocide on...
  3. GoatsMilk

    Live Conflict Military Operations Syria

    My feeling is that in a fully functioning democracy Turkey wouldn't have ever joined the american/isreali war against Assad to begin with. I suspect sane voices would have pointed out the lunacy of joining the americans/isrealis who we watched build a pkkistan in iraq, expecting them to good...
  4. GoatsMilk

    Live Conflict Military Operations Syria

    This highlights another problem with dictatorship. The man in charge does not want to do anything that risks his rule, that means the nation is second to his survival. The long term interests of the nation fall far behind the short term survival of the leader. If we had a fully functioning...
  5. GoatsMilk

    Live Conflict Military Operations Syria

    Under AK party nothing really works since they operate from day to day. No foresight, no contingency for all the variables. Assad, Iran and Russia know that erdogan is trapped not really because of Turkey but because of his weakness. The multiple times Turkey entered syria, so much could have...
  6. GoatsMilk

    Live Conflict Military Operations Syria

    In general when something looks short sighted and stupid, thats what it is when it concerns AK party. We seen too much to keep giving them the benefit of the doubt. However, erdogan had discussions with Russia they went no where, he didn't get permission and when you beg you are treated like a...
  7. GoatsMilk

    Live Conflict Military Operations Syria

    From we can come suddenly one night to we want to come to terms with assad. So basically they went begging russia and america for permission to destroy their pkk ambitions, they didnt get it and are now looking for another way out of the syrian fiasco these fools dived head first into. These ak...
  8. GoatsMilk

    Live Conflict Ukraine-Russia War

    Pissing in the wind is more productive then holding discussions with Russia, especially when it concerns peace.
  9. GoatsMilk

    Live Conflict Military Operations Syria

    as for the pkk kurds, assad and iranian bombing civilians, that is normal operation for them. Only Turkey seems to show concern for the actual welfare of the people, in a way thats why we are losing. If we treated the people in the region the way everyone else treats them, we would have swept...
  10. GoatsMilk

    Live Conflict Military Operations Syria

    As long as AK party are in charge this will continue for many more decades to come. Mr "we can come suddenly one night"
  11. GoatsMilk

    TR Refugee Problem|News & Discussions

    If the price is right AK party will comply.
  12. GoatsMilk

    TR Air Defence Programs

    If i look at the situation emotionally my reaction is going to be f these people arming terrorists against us, slandering us internationally, the two faced approach from the eu, the prejudice, the discrimination and outright racism we receive from the USA/EU. But a state cannot be run like...
  13. GoatsMilk

    TR Air Defence Programs

    Remember this geopolitical game is highly nuanced, statesman who can see this nuance, who can see things and see them across a long time frame succeed. Those who only see the now without thinking of the chain reaction of unintended consequences fail in the long term.
  14. GoatsMilk

    TR Air Defence Programs

    We shouldn't be going back for F16's because you are basically saying to the americans you can screw me, but in the end ill still come back to beg you. Kicked me off F35 and portrayed me as the worthless ally to the world, now Turkey is going back to beg for the older 4th gen F16's from the...
  15. GoatsMilk

    TR Air Defence Programs

    We got to be more intelligent then this. If i were charge of Turkey and i wanted to create a safe zone in Syria for the refugees, the simple thing to do would have been to direct the syrian refugees towards europe from day 1. You then say to Europe, support me make a safe zone and the refugees...
  16. GoatsMilk

    TR Air Defence Programs

    For starters Russian air defences in multiple theatres have proven to be shite. No other nation proved this more then Turkey. However even if the system was good, do we really trust Russia enough to gamble fighting a war using their systems? Do we trust in a potential war with say greece that...
  17. GoatsMilk

    TR Air Defence Programs

    Its always been my belief that s400 was brought because of the quagmire in Syria. When AK party joined the american/isreali war against Assad they never ever suspected that the NATO forces would side line Turkey over it and instead build up the PKK project. Even today the western media refers...
  18. GoatsMilk

    TR Air Defence Programs

    The USA lays out traps in front of Turkey, its up to the Turkish government not to walk into them. S400 was a clear trap that AK party dived head first into. Joining the american/isreali war against Assad was another trap, once erdogan dived into they have used syria to screw Turkey in every way...
  19. GoatsMilk

    Live Conflict Military Operations Syria

    The longer you wait the harder it will get.

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