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Yep, you enter and conquer Persia as a small ruling class, its easier to adopt their language and customs then to force yours onto them. Its been the same anywhere the Turks conquered. Even now the whole "political islamist" politics is about a class of people taking control of Turkey and then...

In some ways it would help Turkey though, because it will further divide PKK among a number of competing pimps. America, Russia, Europe, Iran, Assad, Israel, Saudis, UAE etc all support the pkk in one way or another, while all of them want the pkk to be their bitch. Get the chinese involved too...

Chinese are insecure though.

None of the political islamist voters in Turkey ever ask the question how all these western shills know each other. Its odd, because its pretty much come out that most of these ak party members were western shills, feto the political islamist organisation was also/is an american owned entity...

Maybe western sanctions have hit their plans. These were the guys who came out saying everything was indigenous only to find out that even basic items like fuel pumps were brought from the west.

Pretty much anyone who made a serious effort to conquer iran conquered it.

No doubts they discuss economy. European/Western elites just love to have chats with Muslims.

Would love to know what Babacan discusses in the Bilderberg meetings. I wonder if Allah would approve of such associations.

Yeah those guys need to start behaving like true muslims and not constantly lying and trying to steal all the success for themselves.

I wouldn't say they are masters of deception, they are just exceptional liars and bullshit artists.

I know right, the idea that the French state is soft is pure nonsense. The yellow vest protest that went on for over a year was pure brutality of the highest order. Most mainstream media barely covered it in Europe. The way the french police were terrorising and kicking the absolute shit out...

I remember the 2 year yellow vest protest that no main stream media wanted to report. The french police behaved like savage violent animals. The violence and criminality the french state employed was shocking terrifying stuff. It made gezi in Turkey look like childs play. Have the protests...

Its the land of revolution and bloodshed. Its not unusual for the French.

The real mind boggling defeat for the Arabs was when the Libyans fought chad and were handily defeated by Africans.

Makes you wonder what position they would be in if no oil and gas revenues.

I was actually thinking of the Christian Bulgar Turks who laid waste to the Arab army during the siege. Just shows what would have happened to Islam had the Turks become Christian.

so bitter. Be grateful the enlightened people you speak of who still had human zoos up until the 1970's didnt put your ancestors in one. Not to mention the forced sterilisation projects that were going on the western world.

reminds me of Darwin, his thoeries taught in every school to children, a man who wished the total extermination of the Turkish race. “I could show fight on natural selection having done and doing more for the progress of civilisation than you seem inclined to admit. Remember what risk the...

When Ottomans failed to adapt, they fell behind. But Turks historically have shown an ability to keep coming back.