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@Joe Shearer @meghdut @Paro and all members potentially interested in developing ORBAT for Indian army....let us compile/discuss in this thread over time. I will edit the OG post to have the ORBAT itself.

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Done. Much later I will likely merge it with the Indian war history thread depending how this one goes.

Thx bro..... you didn't sugar coat and cut right to the chase....prompting shocked expression from Joe (though I have chatted with him about the trust factor before for countries) This explains so many parallels in psyche I see in our case in India too.... So much trust erosion over extended...

Excellent post brother, I have saved it for time being to maybe get to a bit more on it later (maybe after dust settles and attentions turn more to deeper analysis). But you are spot on about the hypocrisy factor. i.e how time and time again it has been shown plainly to us that the world (in...

Bingo.

Don't know what you even mean by this.... You handle your "degradation" wisely...not rashly that gets you worse off quicker and possibly killed altogether....and brother neighbour killed as well...and however much else in the larger lose-lose. Was China supposed to handle its degradation under...

You are coming at this from a non relevant time frame (since something has just started).... The CIA didnt see much chance of any kind of fissure in USSR even after the AFG experience conclusion too (much less when it started in 1979)....because again enough people didn't factor in that you...

Why don't we wait for the dust to settle and see for ourselves in who actually believes in something clearly. Best case situation for Putin is staring at a super expensive, painful insurgency of real scale (past all the sanctions heaped on his core and the vassalage to PRC thats going to crush...

This world has some level of flat-earthers too and some really far out conspiracy theories and cults. There really is no limit to human stupidity, just like there is no limit to its potential too. Multiply big country population by some % factor and there you go....thats your raw putty of lost...

Its about knowing your place in the world well (past, current, future)...and do the most constructive thing possible with that. Russia sits on a massive nuclear arsenal....its final security is always guaranteed for forseeable future from external threat Makes no sense to impulsively risk this...

Time for more VDV to save the next day then...

It depends in the end what the powder keg and pressure cooker actually is underneath Putin in Russia. That is a big factor of dynamic grey that no one can really predict at this point....and its very important to the final equation. CCP in China have watched it at some great discomfort before...

If anything PRC will nickel and dime Russia pretty brutally now. There will be a bargaining power you gave to (especially) shanghai oligarchs....they will be a supplier monopoly and buyer monopsony to Putin's Russia (assuming Putin stays past the event horizon going on). Russian oligarchs...

Its always best to look inside, STFU as much as possible (externally) and build yourself up to be strong.....and commit that final strength only when principled and called for. Rather than risk it all over some small issue.... and showing all the weakness you have....and that now you will be...

Folk songs (like keel row) , ballads and shanties run quite deep here as well... @DAVEBLOGGINS and @Ted Barnes might get a kick out of this (lot of Canadians would, esp those connected to Navy): Retired RCN bud of mine reminded me recently they learn/memorise this song in basic heh.... much...

First french song I ever learned as a young kid was sur le pont d'avignon.....a good 5 years before I learned the marseillaise I think haha...

Amadeus ... yep.

great movie....one of those you remember the feeling watching for the first time... tom hulce's giggle helped inject extra levity lol... @xenon5434 you watched it all yet after I recommended? yah I meant more picking just one "ultimate" among the great composers.. Within Mozart's...

I'll tell you quite bluntly what I think/know. In the end its about authoritarians having: a) an inner attraction to other authoritarians...no matter the skin deep political slant and what they blab outside to you b) a big drive to undermine the existing establishment at all costs (to create...