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Let this be a lesson to all,trust only yourself. Thank all the gods we have a name,us Turks.

It was a trap for Zelensky,he took the bait but still managed to make them look like fools. The bad thing is that this doesnt help Ukraine.

Looks like it all was planned to keep Zelensky and the EU out of the negotiations. Dont be surprised if it takes place in Türkiye.

Trump doesnt do support,he leads the negotiations but without Trump there is no negotiation. Putin wants to keep Trump as a ''friend'' so he will never negotiate with the EU without Trump. The only option they have is to put boots on the ground but they wouldnt dare or want to.

He has no choice,he has to sign a deal so that Americans will be present in Ukraine.

Well,without American support or presence in this case what's the EU going to do? Russia will attack more then ever after this. What can the EU do?

Yes but this will hurt the EU more then Zelensky.

So,we would pay about $1,75 billion($340/350 million a piece) fo 5 C17's with minimum 25k per hour operational costs? Btw,if our president had asked i'm sure the Emir would have gifted us some.

@Ripley ,seen what Trump did to Zelensky?

We need at least 25 more A400's but no C17's they are expensive in everything(price,operational costs,maintenance).

They are in a different category,you need both types.

What kind of party,do you have a manifest? Are you Nationalists,Nationists,Communists,Liberals,Islamists etc?

Watch now,CNN AL Jazeera etc. Live.

Just watched Trump with Starmer,you can say alot about him but he owns the room.

So, @Ripley @boredaf its not about drones or tanks but in a doctrine where you use all assets together/combined both are very necessary,right?

Dr. Carmit Valensi is smarter then the rest and she looks good to. ;););)

In American houses,anything is possible.

No its not,depends on the country. Turkish 2% is 10% in any Western European country. It is about the worth of the 2%. Why do you think they never talk about NATO's second biggest Armed Forces when talking about the 2% demand? We produce,operate,maintain cheaper then all other NATO countries.

Yes he was one of the better ones. He played the more complicated roles(good but bad).

I guess they didnt want to leave the dog behind.