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I don’t wanna start a forum war here but I held him at a higher level than most Hollywood “giants”. He was really a master of his art in his own right.
Rest in peace.
Yes he was one of the better ones.
He played the more complicated roles(good but bad).
 

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May they rest in peace. He was a solid actor and I don't recall him behaving out of line or strange, he will be missed.
 

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@Ripley ,seen what Trump did to Zelensky?
X timeline, YouTube, et al, it’s all over the place.

Diplomacy is a trade of ‘able’ men whereas military and politics are undertaken by ‘doers’. Nobody in that office were able persons. Yet, being as the tough, rough doers, the idiotic American duo chose to play Texas hold ‘em with their cards face up and Zelenskyy as desperate as he is, took on the game! As a result, both sides get humiliated.

Talleyrand, Napoleon‘s iconic Minister of Foreign Affairs, before The Congress of Vienna commenced, quipped "Above all, gentlemen, not the slightest zeal!”

Too much eagerness, too much zeal and only one winner attitude end up with losers on both sides.
This was a disastrous moment at US foreign policy. The whole world watched a head of state getting bullied at the Oval Office.

On a lighter note, have you seen what Zelenskyy ”blurred” while Vance was giving it to him?

 
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X timeline, YouTube, et al, it’s all over the place.

Diplomacy is a trade of ‘able’ men whereas military and politics are undertaken by ‘doers’. Nobody in that office were able persons. Yet, being as the tough, rough doers, the idiotic American duo chose to play Texas hold ‘em with their cards face up and Zelenskyy as desperate as he is, took on the game! As a result, both sides get humiliated.

Talleyrand, Napoleon‘s iconic Minister of Foreign Affairs, before The Congress of Vienna commenced, quipped "Above all, gentlemen, not the slightest zeal!”

Too much eagerness, too much zeal and only one winner attitude end up with losers on both sides.
This was a disastrous moment at US foreign policy. The whole world watched a head of state getting bullied at the Oval Office.

On a lighter note, have you seen what Zelenskyy ”blurred” while Vance was giving it to him?

It was a trap for Zelensky,he took the bait but still managed to make them look like fools.
The bad thing is that this doesnt help Ukraine.
 

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