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We're reaching a level of maturity in the defence industry, where we can make a geopolitical impact. For decades, Azerbaijan was refused modern fighter jets. The day we get our domestic engines running in KAAN will be truly historic. Would be nice to see an order. Unrelated, but do we have...

Nice, but not sure if I'm a fan of Havelsan becoming a drone manufacturer too.

No, Total Energies has bought a 50% stake in Rönesans Energy. Unrelated. We need more conventional rail too.

Not announced https://defencehub.live/threads/defence-exports-updates.143/post-280158

Someone please explain UCA to me like i'm 5.

Cakir being sold abroad before being ordered by TAF, thats how you build a brand, trust and a self-sustaining industry. Kudos to Roketsan.

According to the article around 80 will be upgraded and there's an option for another 250.

And financing it. Who will pay for it? Who will finance it? The EU will probably sanction any country or entity that get involved without Southern Cypriot approval.

As far as I'm aware, the deal is still on and continuing. Maybe some of our fellow Indian members can chime in? @Nilgiri

Would be nice but, how will they solve the pipeline going through S Cyprus and Syrian waters?

The claim is wrong, to long to translate but seems like misreporting or outright fake news: https://www.dogrulukpayi.com/dogruluk-kontrolu/istanbul-un-tum-ilcelerinde-yabancilara-oturum-izni-yasaklandi-mi

If sanity returned to the foreign policy of the US, they would and should support Azerbaijan and by extension us full steam. Barzanis/KDP anti-Iran, Azerbaijan anti Iran, Turkey on and off but strategically anti Iran. Dont know why they only ever focus on the Gulf countries when it comes to...

Which deal with Indonesia was bigger than the 2.3 bln € deal with India?

Regarding Saudi Arabia, let us hear the numbers. The biggest deal in defence was so far the export ships to India worth 2.3 bln € if i'm not mistaken. If Baykar is telling the truth, it has to be a massive deal. We're talking hundreds of drones...

Have you seen the margins on Laptops and Smartphones? There are only like 2–3 players in the world that make a profit out of Phones. Apple being the obvious champ.

Story time. Don't know where you live, but Berlin is full of them, easy to spot. Usually Erasmus students that stay for jobs in the so called new economy. In Stuttgart, where I'm also frequently for business, plenty of them in Engineering positions at Bosch, Mercedes or even Mahle. Here in my...

The issue is Germans move abroad, are replaced by Eastern Europeans and Turkish academics and skilled professionals. Our citizens move to Germany but we dont pull any talent from anywhere. Just refugees that would like to leave to Europe too.

Let's get back to topic. F16 procurement is on topic, but lets try to keep the surrounding politics in the politics thread. Thanks.

Marketing wise and to avoid confusion, that would be a good idea. Not everyone is going to agree with me, but: - certain products should have some sort of theme or family of names: Germans name their vehicles and tanks after (big) cats - names should be Turkish but easy for foreigners, like...

All the developments and announcements were obviously scrammed in time for the elections. Going to take a while for new announcements.