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And ur arguments are based on what? These are weak arguments, back in the days when I reminded u of NATO, it was that "NATO provides Turkey air defense against Russia", that turned out to be false, later on as that argument could no longer be used- u NATO folks took the argument that Turkey has...

Sleepy kartal, they removed them. https://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2019/10/25/italy-to-remove-its-air-defense-assets-from-turkey-by-years-end/ NATO isnt good. Accept that already.

or do u mean the symbolic spanish one which is at incirlik? you know the giant airbase which is defended by american patriots anyway? You srsly believe NATO defends Turkish airspace, have u seen how many times cavusoglou made it clear that NATO not even covers half of Turkish airspace?

The very same Patriots they removed right after we shot down the Russian jet, the very SAMP-T they removed after operation peace spring?

I think hes aware now that NATO doesnt provide Turkey anything rather then headaches.

Why do they go inside, smoke out the caves and burn them. Dont risk the lives of the soldiers.

That would be a good move and one which would help Northern cyprus tremendously.

Libya?

Is the order of 250 fighters confirmed?

we will see

Depends, there is a direct competition between europe and asia commercially, not a partnership and a lot of industries in europe might very well not win that competition.

I would jamm the fck out of them

Making a clear cut with the americans will hurt in the short term but will be positive in the long term. They need to weigh in.

Yes, but the same can be said collectively for europe.

and enable him further actions on us?

this thread :D

Ah cut it, as if its just Biden acknowledging lies. The list is massive why folks have no trust in NATO and its primary country and there are to many reasons for that. Dont try to downplay them.

Impressive.