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it doesn't matter, the important thing is.. our sailors wallet full of dollars

wrong la, our navy, under UN mandate already active in middle east, every single years our new, or good looking combatans become part of it

it should halt for the moment, we should focus our financial capacity, to stop the gap of US deficit trading with indonesia. why, because products that we sell to US are high labour content products. the risk is to big if we pursue another source of weaponary, we still need to feed our labour.

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Bagaimanapun F16 butuh suksesornya, IFX cocok.

what about we can get it for free..if we also buy fremm ;)

in this situations, russia stop invading already a win for UA, small nation, with very limited resource of fund, citizens, military hardware, can stop what we call second world best armed forces. if US stop military support, then europe allies should take the place, invest in military hardware...

just don't generate that every moslems did what you said ok, everyone, with his/her religions has their own perspective.. even lot of christians hate what the russians did..

what happen to germany after WW2 was a consequence of declared war, they the loose side.

we call it "keniscayaan" :LOL: no way that the italian just ignore agreement regarding 6 Fremms only for 2 PPAs and let indo away without something behind...

all because MBG wk wk wk wk..

it just marketing sh*t..if you see from cipali toll road, it just plain land, only land clearing process until yesterday.. far behind other chinese EV manufacturer which built its factory exactly at cikampek intersection...

kan udah ada, Turki. cuma ya gitu, Turki ga punya modal gede buat ngasih kita loan

sudahlah mo pake skema apapun barang jepang itu mahal dan shopisticated. Dan biasanya segala sesuatu dikunci sama vendor jepangnya hanya bisa diupgrade oleh vendor asli jepang. kasus ticketing MRT jakarta bikinan jepang, ampe dibikin obsolete dan bikin sendiri oleh lokalan indo, bayangin biaya...

Air force & Navy are target focus 08, but for navy, already lot of project to fill the fleet. seeking another source mean must create another source of funding. maybe if japan gave us reliable n low cost loan it can happen.

you forget main think, tier stuffs mean expensive, which indonesia cronic problem, kismin/bokek

may be you should ask those girls from twittland to go to Universiti Kebangsaan Malaysia to look for manuskrip that said Malahayati do exist

when everything still hot, just eat it with grain of salt

em emotions always make everything not propotional. you can read my statement not only for russian case, its in general, for russian which we can assure after these will be vanish fron syrian land, with all of its influences. Indonesian already faces all of this stituations regarding dutch...

we indonesian, was facing same kind situations back then, 98-99 crisis, east timor, Aceh. The best way is to create reconcilliation and recover your governance and economy of you country ASAP. Vengeance just prolong your suffer