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Tengrism and Shamanism are the native religions of Turks you can say native religions of the Central Asian Steppes like the Turks, Huns, Mongols, Bulgars and Magyars.

There are instances of Turks following Buddhism, Judaism, Christianity like Nestorian, Zoroastrianism, Manchiaeism.

Now Islam is the majority religion of most Turkic peoples.

Yakuts, Tuvans and Altais are the only few I believe that actually hold onto Tengrism. Mongolia used to be majority Tengrism but now they follow Tibetan Buddhism.

Not all Turks are Muslim not all Muslims are Turks.

Its a diverse world.

Most ethnicities has one dominant religion. Vast majority of them follows it/borne into it. For Turks, Arabs and Iranians it is Islam. Interestingly for Bengalis, roughly one fourth are Hindus and 3/4 are Muslims. Though we have been leaving side by side for thousand years. But the most crazy part is how we changed our religion all together. I mean Bengal, more specifically East Bengal was neither hindu nor Muslim majority. It was Buddhist majority. This region was the bastion of Buddhism. Pala empire period considered the golden age of Buddhism. They truly build a great civilization. And then your ancestors came form central Asia on horses and wiped them out. But they also converted us to Islam. So I have mixed feelings.😅
 

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Most ethnicities has one dominant religion. Vast majority of them follows it/borne into it. For Turks, Arabs and Iranians it is Islam. Interestingly for Bengalis, roughly one fourth are Hindus and 3/4 are Muslims. Though we have been leaving side by side for thousand years. But the most crazy part is how we changed our religion all together. I mean Bengal, more specifically East Bengal was neither hindu nor Muslim majority. It was Buddhist majority. This region was the bastion of Buddhism. Pala empire period considered the golden age of Buddhism. They truly build a great civilization. And then your ancestors came form central Asia on horses and wiped them out. But they also converted us to Islam. So I have mixed feelings.😅

Whats interesting the Turks have always been warlike regardless if they followed Tengrism or Islam.

Martial prowress continued.

They very much loved raiding and conquering.

Hence why we made enemies with nearly everybody lmaooo
 

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Most ethnicities has one dominant religion. Vast majority of them follows it/borne into it. For Turks, Arabs and Iranians it is Islam. Interestingly for Bengalis, roughly one fourth are Hindus and 3/4 are Muslims. Though we have been leaving side by side for thousand years. But the most crazy part is how we changed our religion all together. I mean Bengal, more specifically East Bengal was neither hindu nor Muslim majority. It was Buddhist majority. This region was the bastion of Buddhism. Pala empire period considered the golden age of Buddhism. They truly build a great civilization. And then your ancestors came form central Asia on horses and wiped them out. But they also converted us to Islam. So I have mixed feelings.😅

Conversion to Islam was gradual and happened slowly.

The factors have all varied but despite the Seljuks and the Golden Horde all becoming Muslim they still had soldiers who believed in Tengri.

Lots of our tales and legends have still been around albeit they gave it a Islamic flavour.

Wolves and Wise old Men still continued well into the Islamic Era.

When the Mongols conquered Central Asia became Muslim overtime they actually Islamised the region even more with the Chagatai Khanate.

Yuan Dynasty was only one not to become Muslim out of the Mongol divisions.

Genghis Khan was a Tengrist but his successors overtime left the Nomadic way of life and took up different religions.

Genghis Khan himself predicted one day his descendants will be living in palaces.

Genghis Khan might be a reviled figure worldwide but lots of Turks and Mongols claimed to be his successor like Timur, Babur even the Ottomans.

Despite the damage lots of Muslim Turco Mongols held him in high regard.
 

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Conversion to Islam was gradual and happened slowly.

The factors have all varied but despite the Seljuks and the Golden Horde all becoming Muslim they still had soldiers who believed in Tengri.

Lots of our tales and legends have still been around albeit they gave it a Islamic flavour.

Wolves and Wise old Men still continued well into the Islamic Era.

When the Mongols conquered Central Asia became Muslim overtime they actually Islamised the region even more with the Chagatai Khanate.

Yuan Dynasty was only one not to become Muslim out of the Mongol divisions.

Genghis Khan was a Tengrist but his successors overtime left the Nomadic way of life and took up different religions.

Genghis Khan himself predicted one day his descendants will be living in palaces.

Genghis Khan might be a reviled figure worldwide but lots of Turks and Mongols claimed to be his successor like Timur, Babur even the Ottomans.

Despite the damage lots of Muslim Turco Mongols held him in high regard.

While I can say he was a massive POS. He killed so many people that it reduced the carbon emission by 10%. (Source: Joe Rogan podcast🤣)

Mongols really did irreversible damage by destroying Bagdad. Its repercussions are still felt today.
 

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While I can say he was a massive POS. He killed so many people that it reduced the carbon emission by 10%. (Source: Joe Rogan podcast🤣)

Mongols really did irreversible damage by destroying Bagdad. Its repercussions are still felt today.
That city was the epicenter of the decadence wrought by the Islamic Golden Age. By the time mongol banners gathered in front of its walls, Baghdad was not the seat of a great geopolitical power, nor was it a scientifically, economically or culturally productive city. Especially in correlation with its population.
 

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That city was the epicenter of the decadence wrought by the Islamic Golden Age. By the time mongol banners gathered in front of its walls, Baghdad was not the seat of a great geopolitical power, nor was it a scientifically, economically or culturally productive city. Especially in correlation with its population.

Abbassid Caliphate was just a mere figure head.

Abbassids overtime became religious figure heads while most of the Islamic world was under different empires and kingdoms.

Mahmud of Ghazni was the first to call himself sultan and recognise the Abbassids as the caliphs but he ruled independantly they had no say in his empire.

Seljuks when taking over Iraq left them as figure heads instead of deposing them.
 
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Now Islam is the majority religion of most Turkic peoples.
im not sure about that. we are mostly Muslim in name, in turkey most people are deist without even realizing it. people who pray 5 time a day are around 10-20%. Azerbaijan and Kazakhstan are secular idk much about Kyrgyz and Uzbeks but we Turkmens are only muslim by name. language barrier prevent my people to realized the truth. even before namaz when we do our niyat we do it in Turkmen language and we do our niyat not to allah but to Tengri. many of our belief such as love for animal and nature comes from tengrism. when i was child and playing in our neighbor's yard they had a orange tree with green oranges she told us it is a sin to pick them up because they are not ready. this belief comes from tengrism as well or when her husband wanted to cut branches of a tree or cut a whole tree, he apologies to the tree before the act none of these are islamc. we never call ramazan month as ramazan but as Araz ay who was Araz ?? he was our god of fire before islam. just like picture below in kurban bayrami we put a coal and spilt salt around it like circle this is also come from tengrism. in may belife salts know as incorruptible, nullifys magic and keep bad sprits away. when i come to turkey and meet some syrians iraqis yemenis i realized that we never were muslims in fırst place

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we make one these near the throat of the sheep before we give " Orthkhot " which means promistion then butcher cute the throat of the sacrifice and blood make the white salt red. this ritule do not exist in turkey
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@Tonyukuk do you have something similar in Kazakhstan ??
 

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ok not realy ralated with subject but long very long time ago when I was in Finland Tampere I had close friends from Bangladesh two brothers Topu and Babu trustworthy and helpful friends... at some point they even tried to teach me how to play cricket hahahahahah
 

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While I can say he was a massive POS. He killed so many people that it reduced the carbon emission by 10%. (Source: Joe Rogan podcast🤣)

Mongols really did irreversible damage by destroying Bagdad. Its repercussions are still felt today.

Baghdad was once the centre of Knowledge but it has also lost its importance as it declined as Cordoba, Cairo and Bukhara all rivalled Baghdad to be the centre of knowledge.

Islamic Golden Age ending in 1258. Arab centric history tells that the golden age ended. Was it really for all Muslims or just Arabs.

Arabs came under foreign rule for them the golden age ended but they ignore the Mamluks, Ottomans, Timurids and Baburs Empire.

Timur may have laid waste to everywhere but cant ignore how he turned Samarkand into a centre of knowledge.

Ulubegs Observatory is ignored by most then again it was short lived as Politics and Religious fanatics just had to destroy the place.
 

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Yo @Ryder , I noticed that Trump's 2nd term really got the libs kvetching and I think you'll like the pandemonium!
 
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