TR Casual Discussion Çay Bahçesi

[Ecderha]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1539990364400091136

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1539880257666383874

 

[Era_shield]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1539990364400091136

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The thin end of the wedge

 

[Bogeyman]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1540003808054476800

 

[Ryder]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1540012857605390336

Hahaha Shitlibs and progressives losing their minds

 

[guest12]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1540012857605390336

Hahaha Shitlibs and progressives losing their minds

Can't wait see Trump's return.

 

[Ryder]

Can't wait see Trump's return.

 

[Anastasius]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1540012857605390336

Hahaha Shitlibs and progressives losing their minds

Long overdue too, Roe v. Wade was blatantly unconstitutional and based off the testimony of a woman who lied about being raped.

Not sure why lefties are crying though, all this means is that abortion will be up to states to decide and more than 2/3rds of US states already legalized abortion on demand years ago.

 

[Tabmachine]

Rest in Peace Shaykh Mahmud Effendi (May Allah be pleased with him).

Salam to you all.

Tariq ibn Shihab reported: Umar ibn Al-Khattab, may Allah be pleased with him, left on a journey to Syria and with him was Abu Ubaida. They came upon a creek, so Umar dismounted from his camel, took off his sandals and placed them over his shoulder, and then led the camel over the creek. Abu Ubaida said, “O commander of the faithful, are you doing this? You have taken off your sandals and placed them on your back and you led the camel through the creek yourself. I do not think it will be easy for me to get the people of this country to honor you.” Umar said, “If only someone else had said this, O Abu Ubaida! I have made this a deterrent for the nation of Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon him. Verily, we were a disgraceful people and Allah honored us with Islam, so if we seek honor from other than Islam, then Allah will humiliate us.” (Al-Mustadrak ‘ala as-Saheehain 214)

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[Xenon54]

Rest in Peace Shaykh Mahmud Effendi (May Allah be pleased with him).

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Salam to you all.

Tariq ibn Shihab reported: Umar ibn Al-Khattab, may Allah be pleased with him, left on a journey to Syria and with him was Abu Ubaida. They came upon a creek, so Umar dismounted from his camel, took off his sandals and placed them over his shoulder, and then led the camel over the creek. Abu Ubaida said, “O commander of the faithful, are you doing this? You have taken off your sandals and placed them on your back and you led the camel through the creek yourself. I do not think it will be easy for me to get the people of this country to honor you.” Umar said, “If only someone else had said this, O Abu Ubaida! I have made this a deterrent for the nation of Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon him. Verily, we were a disgraceful people and Allah honored us with Islam, so if we seek honor from other than Islam, then Allah will humiliate us.” (Al-Mustadrak ‘ala as-Saheehain 214)

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1540595176523157506

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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1540353905741205506

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Unfortunately i know people from my extended family who are member of this sect.
According to them a 10 years old girl is not allowed to play with her cousin because its ''haram''
They use millions of their followers as free labor in summer camps in central anatolia where the people work in the fields without a payment, the money from harvest goes into the pockets of the big landlords.

May he and his whole sect rot in hell.

 

[I_Love_F16]

Unfortunately i know people from my extended family who are member of this sect.
According to them a 10 years old girl is not allowed to play with her cousin because its ''haram''
They use millions of their followers as free labor in summer camps in central anatolia where the people work in the fields without a payment, the money from harvest goes into the pockets of the big landlords.

May he and his whole sect rot in hell.

If what you say is true then seeing all these people attending his funeral is a bit worrying.

 

[Xenon54]

If what you say is true then seeing all these people attending his funeral is a bit worrying.

There was a reason for tarikat ban...

 

[Nilgiri]

Long overdue too, Roe v. Wade was blatantly unconstitutional and based off the testimony of a woman who lied about being raped.

Not sure why lefties are crying though, all this means is that abortion will be up to states to decide and more than 2/3rds of US states already legalized abortion on demand years ago.

Never underestimate how little neo-marxists actually trust in people (they purport to support) to discuss, debate and vote upon things.

They deeply hate:

- the legislative process
- clear definition of branches of govts in the republic's founding and why this is important to preserve
- institutional transparency

.....and anything else that obstructs and resists their way to power and control for their "well meaning, good intention" agenda.

They gaslight everything that they actually are (and pretend or delude themselves that they arent) onto everyone else at the same time.

More and more people grow increasingly tired of their hypocrisy.

Big changes in US politics (and likely western politics at large) will happen this decade and next.

 

[what]

I do support some abortions, it's just plain wrong to ban abortions outright. There are good reasons for abortions, like medically speaking risky births, rape victims or let's face it if a kid is highly likely to have a difficult life due to some condition.

Abortions are not outright banned in the US, but the states decide now. And the governments of the states are democratically elected.

Which is not as bad as it sounds in some media and only showing us how polarized the US are. They have the super liberal coastal states and the Bible-belt / Jesus-land in-between. I hope they break up for good, as well as the Russian Federation or China hopefully one day.

 

[Tabmachine]

If what you say is true then seeing all these people attending his funeral is a bit worrying.

Certainly worrying for you, but Islam seems to worry you all by default. In your heart of hearts the truth calls out, and if you reject it this will only be a source of anxiety for you.

 

[Tabmachine]

Unfortunately i know people from my extended family who are member of this sect.
According to them a 10 years old girl is not allowed to play with her cousin because its ''haram''
They use millions of their followers as free labor in summer camps in central anatolia where the people work in the fields without a payment, the money from harvest goes into the pockets of the big landlords.

May he and his whole sect rot in hell.

The first point you mention, I would have to admit that I am in agreement with. The age of accountability begins at 7, at which we are accountable for our actions before Allah (Exalted is he). In practical terms, I have heard of children here in Canada (growing up here myself) sexually active as early as 10 or perhaps even earlier. Though obviously I don't have direct visual observations of such activities. This may be different from the cultural norms in Turkiye, but it would be important to note that Islam itself probably played a role in the formation of such cultural norms if so.

As to the second point, if I understand you correctly, that is disturbing if true. I certainly don't assert that you are lying, but do you have any evidence or articles to substantiate that?

 

[Xenon54]

The first point you mention, I would have to admit that I am in agreement with. The age of accountability begins at 7, at which we are accountable for our actions before Allah (Exalted is he). In practical terms, I have heard of children here in Canada (growing up here myself) sexually active as early as 10 or perhaps even earlier. Though obviously I don't have direct visual observations of such activities. This may be different from the cultural norms in Turkiye, but it would be important to note that Islam itself probably played a role in the formation of such cultural norms if so.

Sorry but that is an old custom, if you want to separate by gender and this even from the age of 7 onwards then you can do so but i have problem with people who enforce this on my cousins. This old mentality in a modern socieity is in wrong place.

As to the second point, if I understand you correctly, that is disturbing if true. I certainly don't assert that you are lying, but do you have any evidence or articles to substantiate that?

Thats not something that i read somewhere, its first hand experience, as said some people from my extended family are part of this cult.

 

[Xenon54]

Certainly worrying for you, but Islam seems to worry you all by default. In your heart of hearts the truth calls out, and if you reject it this will only be a source of anxiety for you.

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No, people who organize under the leadership of a man and reject the laws of their country are dangerous, such cult should be forbidden and crushed.
They live in Republic of Türkiye, its laws a secular, accept it or leave, there are enough sharia ruled countries, Turks dont want that kind of stuff.
We have seen what gülen cult has done, we dont need that anymore.

 

[Ryder]

Rest in Peace Shaykh Mahmud Effendi (May Allah be pleased with him).

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Salam to you all.

Tariq ibn Shihab reported: Umar ibn Al-Khattab, may Allah be pleased with him, left on a journey to Syria and with him was Abu Ubaida. They came upon a creek, so Umar dismounted from his camel, took off his sandals and placed them over his shoulder, and then led the camel over the creek. Abu Ubaida said, “O commander of the faithful, are you doing this? You have taken off your sandals and placed them on your back and you led the camel through the creek yourself. I do not think it will be easy for me to get the people of this country to honor you.” Umar said, “If only someone else had said this, O Abu Ubaida! I have made this a deterrent for the nation of Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon him. Verily, we were a disgraceful people and Allah honored us with Islam, so if we seek honor from other than Islam, then Allah will humiliate us.” (Al-Mustadrak ‘ala as-Saheehain 214)

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1540595176523157506

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1540037946518261761

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1540353905741205506

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1540949982299430912

Allah Rahmet Eylesin.

 

[Ryder]

The first point you mention, I would have to admit that I am in agreement with. The age of accountability begins at 7, at which we are accountable for our actions before Allah (Exalted is he). In practical terms, I have heard of children here in Canada (growing up here myself) sexually active as early as 10 or perhaps even earlier. Though obviously I don't have direct visual observations of such activities. This may be different from the cultural norms in Turkiye, but it would be important to note that Islam itself probably played a role in the formation of such cultural norms if so.

As to the second point, if I understand you correctly, that is disturbing if true. I certainly don't assert that you are lying, but do you have any evidence or articles to substantiate that?

Age of accountability in Islam starts when you hit puberty. It depends what age as both men and women reach puberty at a different age and time.

 

[Ryder]

I do support some abortions, it's just plain wrong to ban abortions outright. There are good reasons for abortions, like medically speaking risky births, rape victims or let's face it if a kid is highly likely to have a difficult life due to some condition.

Abortions are not outright banned in the US, but the states decide now. And the governments of the states are democratically elected.

Which is not as bad as it sounds in some media and only showing us how polarized the US are. They have the super liberal coastal states and the Bible-belt / Jesus-land in-between. I hope they break up for good, as well as the Russian Federation or China hopefully one day.

Majority of all abortions come from one night stands and casual sex.

I hold both men and women responsible for this.

People want to have sex without even thinking about the consequences.

Lets not forget the sex tourists who get women pregnant in Thailand and the Philippines leaving a generation of children being born to fathers who are sex tourists who go for pleasure and leave the country.

I can see why so many religions are so strict on adultery and fornication. I want to love the women which is my wife rather than sleeping with 100 women which you have no love for.

Abortions should be under strict rules like rape, incest and medical issues not a free for all.