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bs, the reason why he is irrelevant in the Turkish politics is because of this bs posts. Why Sinan Ogan is pemanent in the Turkish politics is bright to see and understand.

 

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and what does her ethnicity have to do with my post about "beautiful and peaceful song" that triggered your racism


oh because its against the Arab mythology you follow as religion which is a surviving branch of ancient Mesopotamian belief ??? 😄



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i suggest you take a look at your hadith before commenting about other religions 😂


nice drink though :coffee: 😋 but i rather not to drink it


- so you are one of those who try to be act cool by insulting others ? . sad. Guess they never teaches the core of Tengrism "respect every life"

-i didn't discriminate you, just stated some facts if you feel that way i am sorry . the reason why is said is : the YouTubers thinks that was a Turkic tengrism. And the whole comment thinks that way. Which is not

- The female That sings the song is Mongolian. And lyrics has Huge tibetian Bushist mixed Tengrism. and not the tengrism that Turks ones had.

Sad that your kind think. you know Tengrism but promoting actually Non-Turkic one. Because in the songtext It uses Polytheistic character skygod and others like your understatements.


you try to act cool by claiming to believe tengrism while you believe contains 80% None Turkic tengrims. Just like your name Asena. Asena etymological origin is Sogdian not turkic too . anyway, don't care . You are free to believe what you want.

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- as for insulting other religion. Your ignorance and uneducated manner to harrass other is very silly.

the hadith you are mentioning is for certain reason not advised towards anyone. Group of person who were ill after long sunny journey. It is a mixture of camel urine and camel milk, recommended in the hadith. And not urine alone

camel urine contains
s Sodium ascorbic phosphate is a powerhouse anti-oxidant. potassium, creatinine, Sodium salts including natrium. which can be very good those who has suffer from environmental changes, other body issues.


there is also a dozen academical scientific research about it , here one of those in case you uneducated min can't find one.


, I suggest speak wisely,
and before accusing or discriminate others.
 

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Ottomans and the Crimean Turks/Tatars on the march.

One thing the Crimean Tatars did not dress like this since its art you gotta distinguish them from the Ottomans.

Crimean Tatars and their fashion sense was very mixed so was their soldiers.

Central Asian Camel was well used by every Turkic Empire and the Mongols.

Horses were used for warfare while Camels were perfect for logistics. Bactrian Camel was like the truck of their times.

Whats interesting is the bond that the Turks shared with their horses and camels.

Nureddin Zengid even had retirement homes for the horses and camels that served his state.
 

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Aragorn is a fictional character they said so they can make him any race they want.

Okay I want fictional black characters like Black Panther, Spawn, Storm and Blade to be white.

Double standards.
 
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- so you are one of those who try to be act cool by insulting others ? . sad. Guess they never teaches the core of Tengrism "respect every life"
unlike Islam, Tengrism is not dogmatic and i choose not to have respect for racist
Sad that your kind think. you know Tengrism but promoting actually Non-Turkic one. Because in the songtext It uses Polytheistic character skygod and others like your understatements.
cut the BS and get to the meat, you have no problem with that video ( except for your racism part ) what actually DID triggers you was my endorsement of Erlik, Umay other turkic deities which is extremely heretical in Islam and punishable by death in sharia law, too bad we live in a secular country not islamic one. keep crying 😂

Just like your name Asena. Asena etymological origin is Sogdian not turkic too

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maybe i would have forgive you if you said it might be sogdian origin. there no evidence about it only clams some Indians claim that tengri is lord shiva other Pan-Iranist claim tengrism and Göktürks are iranian lol similarly geerks claims döner kebab is greek. the fact that you took their claim as present them as evidence shows what type of anti turkist araperest you are. you remind me of mustafa sabri who give fatwa to kill Atatürk and said and i quote : i repent from turkishness or i resign from turkishness or if i could i would make all the turks arab


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asena was the she-wolf that gave birth to the Turks and lead them out of the valley thus helping to established the first Göktürks empire as explained in Ergenekon legend


as irreligiosity is increasing in turkey, Tengrism popularity is on rise and you Islamism feel so threaten by it. that you try at first show it as monotheist religion so it wont contradict Islam's monotheism. second you try to mock/humiliate and show it, it was insignificant or none Turk . I pity you grow up.
 
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the hadith you are mentioning

and as for the hadith congratulations you managed to read 1 because of me which otherwise wouldn't read at all But i told you go and read all of it. and since I'm sure you wont read them let me show you few of them

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its seems the judgments day will come when muslims fight the Turks as prophet mohammad said
i assume you attend imam hatib school and you know how to read arabic alphabets even if you dont know arabic language you can recognized the word al turk that i have underlined in the arabic text

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well i can bring more hadith but i fear i will get banned. for the hadith i have uploaded the source is also included if you want to check . i will say the same thing i told you yesterday Go and read hadith and learn what kind of prophet and religion you are following before commenting on religion of other people .

now go and buy al-bukhari and read it from the first page
 
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@demir283

I advise you to not debate that member for the ignorance he portray specially talking about Hadith out of context . I might know more regarding Islam but I personally and as a migrant I don't debate these topic for how dangerous it can be and how easy you can make a non Muslim hate Islam .
 

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unlike Islam, Tengrism is not dogmatic and i choose not to have respect for racist

cut the BS and get to the meat, you have no problem with that video ( except for your racism part ) what actually DID triggers you was my endorsement of Erlik, Umay other turkic deities which is extremely heretical in Islam and punishable by death in sharia law, too bad we live in a secular country not islamic one. keep crying 😂



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maybe i would have forgive you if you said it might be sogdian origin. there no evidence about it only clams some Indians claim that tengri is lord shiva other Pan-Iranist claim tengrism and Göktürks are iranian lol similarly geerks claims döner kebab is greek. the fact that you took their claim as present them as evidence shows what type of anti turkist araperest you are. you remind me of mustafa sabri who give fatwa to kill Atatürk and said and i quote : i repent from turkishness or i resign from turkishness or if i could i would make all the turks arab


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asena was the she-wolf that gave birth to the Turks and lead them out of the valley thus helping to established the first Göktürks empire as explained in Ergenekon legend


as irreligiosity is increasing in turkey, Tengrism popularity is on rise and you Islamism feel so threaten by it. that you try at first show it as monotheist religion so it wont contradict Islam's monotheism. second you try to mock/humiliate and show it, it was insignificant or none Turk . I pity you grow up.
and as for the hadith congratulations you managed to read 1 because of me which otherwise wouldn't read at all But i told you go and read all of it. and since I'm sure you wont read them let me show you few of them

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its seems the judgments day will come when muslims fight the Turks as prophet mohammad said
i assume you attend imam hatib school and you know how to read arabic alphabets even if you dont know arabic language you can recognized the word al turk that i have underlined in the arabic text

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well i can bring more hadith but i fear i will get banned the hadith i have uploaded the source is also included if you want to check . i will say the same thing i told you yesterday Go and read hadith and learn what kind of prophet and religion you are following before commenting on religion of other people .

now go and buy al-bukhari and read it from first page


- guess you need medical help. Sad , sorry for you.

it didn't trigger much about the video. cus i also listen and understand what she says. Unlike you punny minded, i know what tengrims is . i don't give f what you thought about Islam nor do i care.
i simply stated as stament . (i said sorry if yu misunderstood the part , but your blind hatred doesn't seem to read and puik all kind of hates)

the facts

- The video is Mongolian that contribute, none Turkic tengrims, which is created after 15th century after Tibetan Buddhist influence . That a fact. And if your buttH can simple fact and cry for me river....
but it look like you seemss deeply wounded and begin to full asault mode. last part, it shows how much you triggered .

Are you assaulting me with what ??? Every hadidt you can find ???

I know those hadith very well know the reasoning. And explanations.

Here is the explanations

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The mentioning Turk in hadidt en end of time.

You were not the only Turk in the history. there are others. Some scholar suggested these hadith are pointing End of era (Wisdom age) sack of Baghdad (1258) when Mongols sacked and destroyed bagdad. and wipeout one of the biggest library in the world.
guess what
Majority of soldiers were Turk origin, not mongol. They were under mongol army and destroyed the bagdat. so the majority islamic scholar sees this hadith related hugely to this era because of Baghdad Status. It was even called by West (Light of east) because of the main scientific and academic city at the time.

- As Ashina. Please give me break and go read proper Chinese related history and their documentation. 阿史那 sogodlarin gokturk hanedanin isimlendirmesi cin kaynaklarinda gecer......



- as for Prophet Muhammed. S.a.V regarding 9 years or six .


last year Oxford university scholars debunked that idea :)
. It seems Old Arabian culture ages were counted after female first mesturation. and they also know the proper ages of Aisha, big sister.
so according to data she was between 16-21...


you see unlike you uneducated or hatred I do my research... so go on hate more :)))
 
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and as for the hadith congratulations you managed to read 1 because of me which otherwise wouldn't read at all But i told you go and read all of it. and since I'm sure you wont read them let me show you few of them

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its seems the judgments day will come when muslims fight the Turks as prophet mohammad said
i assume you attend imam hatib school and you know how to read arabic alphabets even if you dont know arabic language you can recognized the word al turk that i have underlined in the arabic text

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well i can bring more hadith but i fear i will get banned the hadith i have uploaded the source is also included if you want to check . i will say the same thing i told you yesterday Go and read hadith and learn what kind of prophet and religion you are following before commenting on religion of other people .

now go and buy al-bukhari and read it from first page

If Prophet Muhammed is a pedophile or a molestor as you are implying.

But dont pedophiles and molestors actually molest dozens of children they dont stick with one.

At those times people actually married young. Saladin married 14 years old to a 12 year old girl. Everybody saw maturity in a different way at those times including Turks I know you try to pin Bachabazi as a practice among Muslims but this practice has existed well into ancient times.

Prophet Muhammed married a women that was 15 years older if not wouldnt he have gone married a younger girl.

I believe bachabazi has always been a practice rife in Iranic culture hence why its barely present in Central Asia, North Africa, Caucasus, Middle East.

Why I say Iranic because in Iranian history and their peoples the use homosexuality and incest were pretty common.
 
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Pre Islamic Turks actually practiced Polygamy and continued well into the Islamic Era.

Who am I to mention this.

If people have a problem with Polygamy or our ancestors taking mutiple wives.

This shit was normal no such thing as living forever you had to ensure the survival your own blood.

They took concubines mate if you read every culture and civilisation on this planet nearly everybody had concubines.

Concubines are seen as sex slaves in the modern context but the way we percieve it was different in the past.

Westerners had mistresses while in the East they had concubines. Concubines technically not counted as wives legally but the children born counted as legitimate children.

History is not a black and white affair mark my words in 200 years we will also be judged in the 2100 lense.
 

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- so you are one of those who try to be act cool by insulting others ? . sad. Guess they never teaches the core of Tengrism "respect every life"

-i didn't discriminate you, just stated some facts if you feel that way i am sorry . the reason why is said is : the YouTubers thinks that was a Turkic tengrism. And the whole comment thinks that way. Which is not

- The female That sings the song is Mongolian. And lyrics has Huge tibetian Bushist mixed Tengrism. and not the tengrism that Turks ones had.

Sad that your kind think. you know Tengrism but promoting actually Non-Turkic one. Because in the songtext It uses Polytheistic character skygod and others like your understatements.


you try to act cool by claiming to believe tengrism while you believe contains 80% None Turkic tengrims. Just like your name Asena. Asena etymological origin is Sogdian not turkic too . anyway, don't care . You are free to believe what you want.

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- as for insulting other religion. Your ignorance and uneducated manner to harrass other is very silly.

the hadith you are mentioning is for certain reason not advised towards anyone. Group of person who were ill after long sunny journey. It is a mixture of camel urine and camel milk, recommended in the hadith. And not urine alone

camel urine contains
s Sodium ascorbic phosphate is a powerhouse anti-oxidant. potassium, creatinine, Sodium salts including natrium. which can be very good those who has suffer from environmental changes, other body issues.


there is also a dozen academical scientific research about it , here one of those in case you uneducated min can't find one.


, I suggest speak wisely,
and before accusing or discriminate others.
Bro did you read the article completely ? And looked at the sources, authors and quotes ?
Plz this is a bullsiht article.

Have a look at the owner of the article ;

"Articles from Saudi Pharmaceutical Journal : SPJ are provided here courtesy of Elsevier"


World Health Organisation says : STOP DRINKING CAMEL URINE




Generally urine is a very toxic animal waste. It includes urea, uric acid, hydrogenperoxide etc etc... Many toxic materials. And also as according to the article above it brings a high level of infection risk.

The assay from World Health Organisation which was mentioned in the article above.


"Conclusion
To the best of our knowledge, this is the first study to explore the clinical benefit of camel urine for treatment of cancer patients. All our cancer patients who insisted upon using camel urine did not have any significant clinical benefits and we do not recommend its use. Also, some of our patients presented with serious side effects. Two patients developed brucellosis because of the advice to use raw unboiled camel urine/milk to obtain the maximum benefit. We reported the results from a smaller number of patients than initially planned because we considered it important that promotion of this type of treatment as a traditional medicine should be stopped, because there is no evidence to support it scientifically."


If this is about your religion, believe whatever u want. But if u try to legitimise your nonsense believes by twisting science, I'll say "Hold your horses there". And this is not about respect. Drinking camel urine is a complete nonsense. Just simple as that.

Gulf states sponsored many these kind of bullsiht articles around the world once up on a time to prove the assertions of Islam scientificly. But true scientists destroyed all those assays, thesisses completely. With true and objective reserche and scientific evidences.
 
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So if you have a daughter and she gets raped, you'd be cool with it and wouldn't call the dude a pedophile/rapist or molestor. Is that what you want to say?

Dont mix my words people married young. Prophet Muhammed being a pedophile has constantly been debunked. You are talking about a era where people married pretty young not just in the Middle East but examples in Japan, Europe, Ancient Greece and Roman times. People saw age back then really different im 29 years basically considered late to marry if we use definitions from the past.

Psycholoically pedophiles dont stick with one they constantly molest children numerous examples.

Hence why you hear constant news of molestations that involve dozens of children.

Not just locally but also at the top of with the rich and famous.

Does not mean I grab a 17 year old marry her. We live in different times because our mortality rates better plus with maturity as it differs.

In the past it was seen differently. I really thought users would not judge the past with a modern lense but here we are.
 
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