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You know people are more likely to come out if they feel like the environment is more likely to accept them, i dont think media can change someones sexual preference, sexuality is an instinct and not a social construct like some of those woke people claim.
Do you think there are really less gay people in those repressive socieities or do they just hide their sexuality due to discrimination or even fear of life?
I remember seeing a chart where quite a lot muslim countries were pretty high on a chart showing top countries that searched for gay porn.

Everybody is free to believe whatever he wants, i dont think media influence can change ones sexuality.
Apparently you didn't read or understand those stats. Or maybe you did and you still think it's sensible to believe that in the West - which has accepted gays for decades - all of a sudden children, and only children, are "coming out" as transgender, non-binary, cats, cupcakes, and hundreds of other identities that are definitely 100% real and not socially constructed, at levels so high they're not seen in any heterosexual species or in any past civilisation or in any country not infested with Progressivism, and it's just a big coincidence that this was preceded by a big media campaign pushing these deranged ideas and open planning in the academic literature to push these ideas onto kids through schooling, and another big coincidence that the children who have "come out" with these 100% real identities that they came up with all by themselves just happen to believe every other tenet of Progressive ideology, and for some strange reason in spite of becoming so liberated and free by all this "coming out" they are also the most mentally ill? What a sensible story.

But yes, the underlying sexuality is biological and can't be changed, but when children are psychologically abused and brainwashed as they are by Progressives, their behaviour and beliefs can change. And surprise surprise, the data shows that that's exactly what's happening:

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Again - Progressivism/Rainbow-Marxism is a social and psychological disease, and it is now being inflicted upon children all across the Western world.
 

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There will become late-ottoman empire.

Chinese colony,Korean colony,Black people Area,White people land all with their own Army.......

At least in the late Ottoman Empire us Turks were at least given the right of self defence.

Cant say the same in todays society where self defence can get you life in prison.

Progressive liberals care more about criminals and their rights rather than the victims.
 

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This is the Great American hahahaha


I mean, it's California. Using it as a measure of American quality of life is practically cheating, their local authorities are basically 99% batshit insane progressives.
 

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Lets be honest if it wasnt for the Oil Money the Saudis wouldnt be buying all these players.

Same thing for Man City if it wasnt for the oil money they would be fighting for relegation rather than winning the Treble.

Manchester United was constantly curb stomping Man Shitty until the oil money came rolling in.

Guardiola is the most overrated manager of all time. Cant build a team apart from always going to the winning team.
 

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I mean, it's California. Using it as a measure of American quality of life is practically cheating, their local authorities are basically 99% batshit insane progressives.
California is the top GDP state of USA.

Far better than Rust Belt and Trump Fans areas...
 

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Did Tengrism allow lbgt?
İf we solve LGBT problem, will we be rich as we were in old good days?

When i was a child, we didn't have LGBT problem and our life was paradise.
Our grandparents and their grandparents didn't face LGBT so they lived like Kings and Queens..
LGBT yokken musluklardan çikolata akıyormuş evlerde .


Do you really think Islam is successful and capable to abolish homosexuality?

İ see transexuals in Istanbul more than Berlin.

WTF LGBT problem is?

Do we welcome Transexuals but are we against Gays?( Hem alıcı hem verici olunca mı problem sayılıyor?:))))
 
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California is the top GDP state of USA.

Far better than Rust Belt and Trump Fans areas...

So? GDP "advantage" in cali is increasingly artifact of its ever growing debt levels (compared to other states of the US). If you shove in 2x or 3x more debt (compared to previous decades) all using collateral from stuff your generation didnt even build in first place but are extremely ingrateful + spoiled first thing over, of course you will get some GDP bump from it.

Its going to be meaningless long term though if they dont fix their growing extreme polarised (be it wealth, mental issues, crime, NIMBY gated complex attitude) society....and address why they have larger and larger negative net migration (of both people and businesses) to other states....be it families that want dominion (instead of the marxist progressive bureaucrats) over their children or crime-refugees.

Some of the most hypocrite ingrate mentally delusional people in the US live in california, they made sure Biden brought back SALT exemption after Trump got rid of it 🤣....because rich people there dont like being reminded of reality of what california's taxes are when they have to pay federal in addition.

San Francisco, LA have just gotten worse and worse, and it looks set to continue. No room for working class and families....have to be one of three things:

A) very rich to begin with
B) rely on servicing the very rich and not care about the collective and larger issues (i.e be atomized elitist just like the rich want and you can scrape by with whats put on your plate by them)
C) rely on their mental drama NIMBY guilt of A and B with the welfare state and its debt, inflation and big bribes. It has changed from more class-based to identity based ever since the 90s switch to democrat-monolith (no political competition) in the cities there.

Liberals in the west are turning more and more deluded....and normal people have to wake up, move and let the libs reap what they sow....and push a few matters when their debt bubble + welfare bribe model collapses.

There is lot of room in the US to unfold this model this century (preserve the sanity in half the population, and wait out the consequences for the mentally ill in the other half)....it is a huge country in the end.
 

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So? GDP "advantage" in cali is increasingly artifact of its ever growing debt levels (compared to other states of the US). If you shove in 2x or 3x more debt (compared to previous decades) all using collateral from stuff your generation didnt even build in first place but are extremely ingrateful + spoiled first thing over, of course you will get some GDP bump from it.

Its going to be meaningless long term though if they dont fix their growing extreme polarised (be it wealth, mental issues, crime, NIMBY gated complex attitude) society....and address why they have larger and larger negative net migration (of both people and businesses) to other states....be it families that want dominion (instead of the marxist progressive bureaucrats) over their children or crime-refugees.

Some of the most hypocrite ingrate mentally delusional people in the US live in california, they made sure Biden brought back SALT exemption after Trump got rid of it 🤣....because rich people there dont like being reminded of reality of what california's taxes are when they have to pay federal in addition.

San Francisco, LA have just gotten worse and worse, and it looks set to continue. No room for working class and families....have to be one of three things:

A) very rich to begin with
B) rely on servicing the very rich and not care about the collective and larger issues (i.e be atomized elitist just like the rich want and you can scrape by with whats put on your plate by them)
C) rely on their mental drama NIMBY guilt of A and B with the welfare state and its debt, inflation and big bribes. It has changed from more class-based to identity based ever since the 90s switch to democrat-monolith (no political competition) in the cities there.

Liberals in the west are turning more and more deluded....and normal people have to wake up, move and let the libs reap what they sow....and push a few matters when their debt bubble + welfare bribe model collapses.

There is lot of room in the US to unfold this model this century (preserve the sanity in half the population, and wait out the consequences for the mentally ill in the other half)....it is a huge country in the end.
Almost all of the cities in US like this.
New york, cali type
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Rust Belt type (Detroit,Cleveland....)

The good place are countryside small towns ,or a small area in the big declined cities.]

I think finally Chinese Korean Indian(not mean native american) will create their own states in USA within 20 years.
 

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Rust Belt type (Detroit,Cleveland....)

These are all democrat monolith run too. Competence only comes with competition politically. You have same guys running the place for decades, this is what sets in over time.

Labour union bribe system kept in place while the industry is shipped overseas. So more reliance on same set of politicians formed....because people dont want to take responsibility for themselves.

Then the politicians find new set of things for people to attack each other on and stay divided so that no one asks meaningful questions and start to make separate politics outside of the establishment and convention.

I dont think separate states will form, but maybe more communities will move and set up new politics and community organisation at local level. States able to accomodate this and with balanced budget as possible will do best in interim and wait for the more fat-debt +kick the can ones to implode later.....then the whole system can be re-engineered to better setting (what is the proper role of federal govt vs state govt when it comes to debt, budget and overall political/media/social agenda). More local govt will win this argument at that point....in many ways this is already happening.

New "Liberalism"/progressivism (at entire federal + heavy institutional capture level) cannot continue on hypocrisy the way it has for a while now....you are supposed to have diversity of thought under the greater collective principle with proof rather than words and unfettered social engineering (to try subvert those principles even within one generation as though people forget so easy).

If identity politics is opened and waged (like was intensified on purpose during Obama tenure to distract from failure of delivering his promises made in 2008 after 2 terms of neo con Bush...both of them adding drastically to national debt and bad foreign and economic policy), then current setup fractures even more in lot of areas and the resolutions will have to shift accordingly.

Those that want to live in the 90s compromise system, move to those states and preserve those norms there. Those that want the brave new world stuff of deep blue states stay in those states. Federal govt is made to get out of the way of this as far as possible. Simple.

But US has the size and experience to work this out as messy as it might seem....and how anti-establishment things might look and sound in the process of these readjustments. How it does, we shall see.
 

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İf we solve LGBT problem, will we be rich as we were in old good days?

When i was a child, we didn't have LGBT problem and our life was paradise.
Our grandparents and their grandparents didn't face LGBT so they lived like Kings and Queens..
LGBT yokken musluklardan çikolata akıyormuş evlerde .


Do you really think Islam is successful and capable to abolish homosexuality?

İ see transexuals in Istanbul more than Berlin.

WTF LGBT problem is?

Do we welcome Transexuals but are we against Gays?( Hem alıcı hem verici olunca mı problem sayılıyor?:))))

Escinseler hep vardi ama eskiden hic bisey yapamazlardi cunku yasakdi.

Bugunku bakarsan evlenibiliyorlar ve cocuk alabiliyorlar hemde pride monthlarida var.

Eskiden bunlara yapamazdi cunku yasak ve olumle sonuclanardi.

Islam ve Cogu dinlerde escinselik yasak. Islamin seriati escinsel olum sonuclaniyor ya da omru boyunu hapis cezasi.

Escinsel ve zenginlik hic alakasi yok. Insanlar zannediyor teknoloji ve ilim escinselere bagli Batlilar boyle propaganda yapiyor.

Hic kanma.
 

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I mean what is the point TAF also is fought against ISIS which is extremist Muslims.

Thats the difference you dont see majority of Muslims supporting aq or isis hence why they are such a minority but Lbgt are supporting pkk and other leftist terror groups all in the name of progressivism.

They think Kurds are secualr and liberal while in reality they are pretty conservative and tribal.

Progressive Western liberals should book a trip to Erbil try to preach their lbgt rights to the local people they will see the reaction.

Terrorist Abdullah Ocalan in his books wrote a scathing criticism of homosexuality.

Nowadays you have queers fighting for pkk and ypg. The irony lmaoooo
 

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Cunku Insanoglu hata yapiyor. Insanlarda hayvanlarla yatiyor.

Ona da serbest yapicaz mi?
Eşcinsel ilişkiye girmek suç değilki ? Yasaklanmasını da istemiyor AKP?
 
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