TR Casual Discussion Çay Bahçesi

[Ryder]

I think AKP is controlled by Qatar and gulf money now. Because of our terrible economy.

Turkic countries are full of natural resource but robbed by Russian ,so they arent as rich as Arab Gulf countries.

Finally hopefully we will back to turkic countries,ukraine war made this much more possible.

Because Middle East and North Africa are pretty close geographically.

We will be more close to Central Asia if we can fully connect ourselves with Azerbaijan which grants us access to the Caspian sea.

Turkiye needs lots of oil and gas.

 

[B_A]

Because Middle East and North Africa are pretty close geographically.

We will be more close to Central Asia if we can fully connect ourselves with Azerbaijan which grants us access to the Caspian sea.

Turkiye needs lots of oil and gas.

The problem of Central Asia is that they are controlled/influenced by Chinese and Russian.That is difficult for us to reach them.
In Middle East,the great powers can’t control the countries like the Cold War era.

For example if we create a large military base in Kazakhtstan.Chinese and Russian will very angry.

That is like someone create a base in Mexico to American.

 

[Ryder]

The problem of Central Asia is that they are controlled/influenced by Chinese and Russian.That is difficult for us to reach them.
In Middle East,the great powers can’t control the countries like the Cold War era.

For example if we create a large military base in Kazakhtstan.Chinese and Russian will very angry.

That is like someone create a base in Mexico to American.

Getting close with Mongolia is even more hard.

 

[B_A]

Getting close with Mongolia is even more hard.

Get closer with Middle East and North Africa = made a balance between Western and Russo-Chinese Eurasian allience.

Enter the Central Asia=directly against the Russo-Chinese Eurasian allience.Chinese is very afraid of East-Turkistan issues.

Actually we had tried to do it at 1990s but didnt gone well,so AKP government changed the focus to Middle East and North Africa.

 

[B_A]

And we have to admit the territory of ottoman Empire is perfect.Easy to defend(surrounded by oceans rivers and deserts) and full of natural recourse.The only problem is that there were too many different ethnic groups.

The Alliance of Turan is also full of atural recourse but it s geographically difficult to defend and has too few access to the sea.

 

[Ryder]

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And we have to admit the territory of ottoman Empire is perfect.Easy to defend(surrounded by oceans rivers and deserts) and full of natural recourse.The only problem is that there were too many different ethnic groups.


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The Alliance of Turan is also full of atural recourse but it s geographically difficult to defend and has too few access to the sea.

Ottomans had plans to invade Central Asia.

Ottomans believed it was their destiny to unite the Caliphate and the Turkic lands under their rule.

They stumbled upon roadblocks

Safavids, Babur and Russia.

 

[B_A]

Ottomans had plans to invade Central Asia.

Ottomans believed it was their destiny to unite the Caliphate and the Turkic lands under their rule.

They stumbled upon roadblocks

Safavids, Babur and Russia.

Yes but those land is plain and hard to defend.

SInce the decline of Ottomans since 1683,We use Danube,black sea and Middle east desert to defend our land from 1683 to 1877.

 

[Ryder]

Yes but those land is plain and hard to defend.

SInce the decline of Ottomans since 1683,We use Danube,black sea and Middle east desert to defend our land from 1683 to 1877.

No matter how much land you gain and conquer you come to a point where you reach your natural expansion then you have to start defending your gains.

Spanish conquered from Argentina all the way to the Philippines.

Eventhough the Spanish Empire was bigger than the Ottoman Enpire in land mass.

Spanish Empire declined much quicker than the Ottoman Empire as they had to defend all those colonies from the Americas to the Far East.

Ottoman Empire reaching Ww1 despite on its last legs was more relevant to the balance of power in Europe than Spain and Portugal.

Ottoman Empire, Spain and Portugal all began to decline at the same period.

 

[Maximilien Robespierre]

yaw 2 füze atak ne olacak

YARDIM EDİN LO İNSANLIK SUÇU İŞLENİYOR HERKESİ DEVREYE SOKUN -hamas

 

[Maximilien Robespierre]

Her gün makarna yemekten ciğerim çıkmış bir de elin filistinine mi yardım edeceğiz.

 

[B_A]

No matter how much land you gain and conquer you come to a point where you reach your natural expansion then you have to start defending your gains.

Spanish conquered from Argentina all the way to the Philippines.

Eventhough the Spanish Empire was bigger than the Ottoman Enpire in land mass.

Spanish Empire declined much quicker than the Ottoman Empire as they had to defend all those colonies from the Americas to the Far East.

Ottoman Empire reaching Ww1 despite on its last legs was more relevant to the balance of power in Europe than Spain and Portugal.

Ottoman Empire, Spain and Portugal all began to decline at the same period.

Yes that s what i meant the territory of ottoman empire to much easier to defend.

Until Russian used hundreds years and millions population to conquer Ukriane and Crimean,the core of ottomans was safe.

 

[Saithan]

https://x.com/catfishtheblues/status/1719682098817044917?s=46&t=DEy7rapS0QQE2YE7LHul5g

 

[Ryder]

Yes that s what i meant the territory of ottoman empire to much easier to defend.

Until Russian used hundreds years and millions population to conquer Ukriane and Crimean,the core of ottomans was safe.

Turkiye is a bridge between Europe and Asia.

Its no surprise that the Ottomans could defend their territories due to them being at the centre.

If they had far flung colonies it would have been a much bigger nightmare to defend.

 

[Saithan]

https://x.com/5inan_/status/1719599133378400348?s=46&t=DEy7rapS0QQE2YE7LHul5g

Dogruysa cok yazik. Bize mecburen mafya lazim, adamlarin pisligini cikarip yurt disindan haber yapabilmek icin. Haber ajanslarini yurt icinde susturuyorlar, ama wiki gibi suratlarina carpma ihtiyaci var.

 

[Deliorman]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1719678760461439363

 

[Angry Turk !!!]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1719678760461439363

This Forum needs a "puke" emoji.

 

[Bogeyman]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1719284710801588463

 

[Knowledgeseeker]

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And we have to admit the territory of ottoman Empire is perfect.Easy to defend(surrounded by oceans rivers and deserts) and full of natural recourse.The only problem is that there were too many different ethnic groups.


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The Alliance of Turan is also full of atural recourse but it s geographically difficult to defend and has too few access to the sea.

You guys are welcome to become the neighbors of Morocco again All jokes aside! The Turkic countries need to be united by all means, both politically, economically, and militarily speaking. The potential is huge and very important. It will first start with Azerbaijan, and then hopefully expand more to the east.

 

[Ryder]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1719678760461439363

Cant blame them they are just channeling in their inner nomad spirit lmaooo

Gimme the loot

 

[Ecderha]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1719759123145691180