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Here is a fun fact that we may have never knew.

Necmettin Erbakan and Jean Marie Le Pen were known to be good friends with each other.
 

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This made me look at my pc like:
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Some things are a bit controversial, I can't say that I all agree with the things added with paint on the map. But the whole picture gives an idea of the political landscape of the 17th century. It was one of the peaks of Turkic/Islamic history, but also a century of great opportunities missed, as the picture started to reverse rapidly in the following century.

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Some things are a bit controversial, I can't say that I all agree with the things added with paint on the map. But the whole picture gives an idea of the political landscape of the 17th century. It was one of the peaks of Turkic/Islamic history, but also a century of great opportunities missed, as the picture started to reverse rapidly in the following century.

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Good map but Ottoman holdings in Africa were greatly exaggerated. 16th century was the high point in Turkish history.
 

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Some things are a bit controversial, I can't say that I all agree with the things added with paint on the map. But the whole picture gives an idea of the political landscape of the 17th century. It was one of the peaks of Turkic/Islamic history, but also a century of great opportunities missed, as the picture started to reverse rapidly in the following century.

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Some things are a bit controversial, I can't say that I all agree with the things added with paint on the map. But the whole picture gives an idea of the political landscape of the 17th century. It was one of the peaks of Turkic/Islamic history, but also a century of great opportunities missed, as the picture started to reverse rapidly in the following century.

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Absolute Monarchies are always tenuous and ticking time bombs as they do not having basic law, rights and dignity cohesively and default applied at the citizen level (i.e its all serfs and subjects to be essentially playthings).

So the quality of the sovereign waxes and wanes, and mostly wanes given what concentrated human power tends to do, especially one in family/dynasty succession format with all its competition at that level compared to what the people ought to have in basic path-hood of equal opportunity (education --->work ethic---->innovation ladders unlocked by that rather than agrarian basis).

i.e its very rarely a hobbesian idyll....then the lack of proper resolution to handle accountability and justice properly to grow long term social trust and investment (which must be secured for any human, social and economic development to take place).

Ataturk learned on the fly and very quickly the importance of the republic and it being secular and progressive (on things like mass basic education) once its security and borders are finally secured and stabilised from wars that came from the brittle tenuous nature he saw firsthand with the progenitor empire. Turkiye benefited immensely from Ataturk.
 

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Good map but Ottoman holdings in Africa were greatly exaggerated. 16th century was the high point in Turkish history.
I think a mapping was intended to be done here by including the impact areas. We know that many tribal unions in the depths extending to the territory of Mali-Niger today swore allegiance to Istanbul, as the seat of the caliphate. Even today, there are tribes that have ritualized this history. Even the sultanate of Aceh in the Sumatra region of South Asia was not technically a Turko/Mongolic state or an autonomous structure of the Ottoman Empire, but it was a sultanate that accepted Ottoman leadership in Islamic unity and the Ottomans provided naval and technical support against Portuguese raids on many occasions. Therefore, this should be seen as a map of spheres of influence. However, this does not change the fact that I disagree with what you mean, I just wanted to make a note about what the map is trying to convey. The series of grave mistakes made in this century is a chain of events that needs to be written about in detail. As a common phenomenon in political history of humankind, when world orders reach their peak, they also create the conditions for their collapse.
 

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