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Sinan Oğan and AKP. 1 vs 60
 

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Polls conducted in End-April/Start-May are now turning largely in favor of Erdogan.

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Also, the polling aggregates are for the first time in favor of Erdogan.

Impressive, how KK managed to blow his lead. 10 days till election!
 

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Polls conducted in End-April/Start-May are now turning largely in favor of Erdogan.

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Also, the polling aggregates are for the first time in favor of Erdogan.

Impressive, how KK managed to blow his lead. 10 days till election!

Clueless polls.
There is no major happening that changed public sentiment in a big way.
 
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And yet, CHP fans believe that the CHP will act within the bounds of democracy
Insane tbh. With every passing day, all my predictions about the CHP gradually becomes a reality and yet somehow we are labelled as "fear mongers"
Man... im speechless. The arrogance, ignorance and naivety in this post.
You seriously follow turkish politics on akp twitter accounts and calling chp supporters insane... and nobody has a problem with that. We have been saying that turks in europe should not vote because they dont live in this country but now you take this to a step further. You are not even turk or living in turkey. And you have the arrogance to Call turks who have an opinion based on experience, delusional.
 

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İBB administration, which gave the maintenance and repair tenders of IETT, whose cost was 2 billion 114 million TL between 2019-2022, to the company of which CHP Özgür Karabat was the Financial Advisor, again awarded the first of the 2023 IETT tender to the same company.

Transportation İç ve Dış Ticaret A.Ş., of which CHP Istanbul Deputy Özgür Karabat is the Financial Advisor, won its first tender for 76 million 180 thousand 500 TL covering the years 2022-2023.

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After Özgür Karabat received the IETT maintenance tender from İBB, 158,000 fault records were created within 1 year.

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The upper limit of IETT's debt stock is 5.5 billion TL. However, IETT went bankrupt by borrowing 7.1 billion TL at the end of 2021.


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On the other hand, Ekrem İmamoğlu made the brother of CHP Istanbul deputy Özgür Karabat, to whom İETT awarded the maintenance and repair tender for 2 billion ₺, as a specialist at İBB subsidiary İstanbul Transportation A.Ş with a salary of 9,134 TL.

AK Party Istanbul Provincial Presidency stated that there is no production in Hadımköy Public Bread Factory, which Istanbul Metropolitan Municipality (İBB) opened 3 months ago. (22.10.2022)




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Now, the same factory is wanted to be rented for 50 thousand TL per month.

These men collapsed into IETT. IETT went bankrupt as well. And the buses are on fire. They are not repaired. While the CHP cannot even run a bus company and a bread factory, it wants to rule the country.

Folks, this is how these men will rob this country when they come to power.
Again akp is on power holding the judiciary? Where are they?
 

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Polls conducted in End-April/Start-May are now turning largely in favor of Erdogan.

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Also, the polling aggregates are for the first time in favor of Erdogan.

Impressive, how KK managed to blow his lead. 10 days till election!
Polimetre owned by Günal Ölçer, CHP partisan, second election, but first ever official poll, discarded. AREDA owned by Albayrak family, discarded. SER-AR, popped a month ago out of nowhere, no info provided on website, no transparency, first election, discarded. İVEM, owned by Mehmet Öge, islamist, second election, first poll was on 2017 referendum done three times: yes wins 62%, 60%, 58%, discarded. ASAL, owned by Orhan Aydın, AKP partisan, established in 2021, first ever poll, discarded. HBS, no website, no info, one twitter account opened in 2022, first ever poll, discarded.

So the only two polls which actually have a history and are not blatantly partisan here are SONAR and ORC. SONAR is owned by Hakan Bayrakçı, has a long pedigree of polling with very mixed results, all over the place. Owner has been getting closer and closer to AKP in the past years though, having many flops in 2019 local elections, calling Istanbul, Adana and Antalya for the People Alliance. But still it can be taken seriously.

ORC has been called by opposition as a partisan polling company, but this is because their results contradict their partisan polls, not because there is evidence of their closeness to AKP (if anything there are rumors of them being funded by Sarıgül) and they are within the margin of error almost always, going back to 2012 elections. They have come up with many unbelievable polls from opposition's perspective and those polls have proven accurate. My personal cumulative index data shows it to be the most accurate poll in Turkish election polling history. Coupling it with other more reliable polls with an actual history (MAK, Piar, Gezici) shows their result to be in the ballpark. ORC has always shown AKP higher in their polls than most opposition people could accept and AKP-adjacent media have showcased their polls to prove they're ahead. They got 2012, 2014 local, 2015, 2017 referendum, 2018 and 2019 local elections all right. Some might point out their 2019 Antalya and Istanbul poll, the latter showing Binali Yıldırım with 50.9% as opposed to İmamoğlu's 46.6%, but these polls were done a month before the election and the Antalya one was within the margin of error, so effectively correct, but Istanbul was just outside the margin. So if anything their polling show a slight AKP bias, but this is due to methodology not ideology.
 
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Man... im speechless. The arrogance, ignorance and naivety in this post.
You seriously follow turkish politics on akp twitter accounts and calling chp supporters insane... and nobody has a problem with that. We have been saying that turks in europe should not vote because they dont live in this country but now you take this to a step further. You are not even turk or living in turkey. And you have the arrogance to Call turks who have an opinion based on experience, delusional.
Certainly, Iam not a Turk and I cant vote; without a doubt, Iam not feeling the pain of the current economic conditions of Turks in Turkiye and may god bless all of them. However, to understand politics, you dont need to belong to the nation in question and you dont need to feel the pain of the Turks to understand how a politician is gonna work

As long as a politician is "corrupt", it gets easy to plan out his thought process.... period!

I said b4 that KK wouldnt be able to kick out the refugees and guess what? KK's plan for kicking the refugees is neigh impossible and makes the individual feel as if this plan came out from a caveman who is 10 years old and doesnt understand anything about geopolitics. I recommend that KK re-enter a university and work on egtting a certificate/diploma again ffs

I said b4 that KK cant even fix the economy and oh boy I was right! KK promised to give gold to all citizens from the TCMB, promised to raise all salaries by the DOUBLE, promised to provide all new homes free of charge in earthquake areas, promised to reduce taxes, promised to provide free cattle in the tens to farmers, promised to raise interest rates, promised for continuous growth the moment he sets in office, promised to reduce inflation.... etc.... and god knows from where he is gonna bring all the funds that will probably surpass the trillions into the country to solve all this contradictory shit

KK said that he will provide EU free-Visa travel in 3 months only for the German foreign minister to rebuke him and state that even if KK comes to office, the EU wont give the Turks free visa travel. In essence, Turkey will comply with EU anti-terror laws, will release Demirtas and other PKK members only to get the middle finger from Europe..... period!

I said that KK will never be democratic and will instead solidify his power no matter the consequences after he is elected..... now his team states that he intends to bypass the parliament (if he didnt get the majority) and rule the country and direct it wherever his whims fit through presidential decrees.....like wow, and you ppl believe that you will be able to kick such a person in 2029? Hahaha, grow up mate

Like mate, that guy even admitted that he used fake videos in the Turkish national assembly for years to pass on his agenda, looooool! But who cares mate, as long as I fantasize that KK will be the epitome of democracy, it will all work out mate🤔🤣

We can go on and on but to no avail; all will turn a blind eye to the mistakes of their beloved "football team". All what I want to say is that KK is screwing up this much and he isnt even ruling the country; hell, there is still 10 days for the elections.
Dont get me wrong though, Erdogan needs to go. The guy did his service for 20 years and it is time for change but we normally change into the better not the worse by bringing Kilicdaroglu..... that guy is like a mini dictator for gods sake
 

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Polimetre owned by Günal Ölçer, CHP partisan, second election, but first ever official poll, discarded. AREDA owned by Albayrak family, discarded. SER-AR, popped a month ago out of nowhere, no info provided on website, no transparency, first election, discarded. İVEM, owned by Mehmet Öge, islamist, second election, first poll was on 2017 referendum done times: yes wins 62%, 60%, 58%, discarded. ASAL, owned by Orhan Aydın, AKP partisan, established in 2021, first ever poll, discarded. HBS, no website, no info, one twitter account opened in 2022, first ever poll, discarded.

So the only two polls which actually have a history and are not blatantly partisan here are SONAR and ORC. SONAR is owned by Hakan Bayrakçı, has a long pedigree of polling with very mixed results, all over the place. Owner has been getting closer and closer to AKP in the past years though, having many flops in 2019 local elections, calling Istanbul, Adana and Antalya for the People Alliance. But still it can be taken seriously.

ORC has been called by opposition as a partisan polling company, but this is because their results contradict their partisan polls, not because there is evidence of their closeness to AKP (if anything there are rumors of them being funded by Sarıgül) and they are within the margin of error almost always, going back to 2012 elections. They have come up with many unbelievable polls from opposition's perspective and those polls have proven accurate. My personal cumulative index data shows it to be the most accurate poll in Turkish election polling history. Coupling it with other more reliable polls with an actual history (MAK, Piar, Gezici) shows their result to be in the ballpark. ORC has always shown AKP higher in their polls than most opposition people could accept and AKP-adjacent media have showcased their polls to prove they're ahead. They got 2012, 2014 local, 2015, 2017 referendum, 2018 and 2019 local elections all right. Some might point out their 2019 Antalya and Istanbul poll, the latter showing Binali Yıldırım with 50.9% as opposed to İmamoğlu's 46.6%, but these polls were done a month before the election and the Antalya one was within the margin of error, so effectively correct, but Istanbul was just outside the margin. So if anything their polling show a slight AKP bias, but this is due to methodology not ideology.
What about KONDA?
 

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Polls conducted in End-April/Start-May are now turning largely in favor of Erdogan.

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Also, the polling aggregates are for the first time in favor of Erdogan.

Impressive, how KK managed to blow his lead. 10 days till election!
By a pre-election ban on polling, Does that mean that no polls will release new data until the elections
 

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What about KONDA?
I haven't seen an official poll from them; one was circulating on social media but it wasn't published by them. They got 2018 right, but in 2014 their poll had Erdoğan at 58, and İhsanoğlu at 34. So a mixed success rate. But a company with pedigree, so they could be taken seriously if they came up with a poll, but they didn't.
 

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I may not be able to predict the results but one thing I will hazard a guess about. The turnout rate will probably surpass that of the highest in nation's history, i.e. the 1987 elections, probably exceeding 95%. Get yourself ready for long voting lines brothers.
 

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They're giving a lot of Demirören property to Bayraktars, so when the next government tries to take his properties instead of the unpaid loans, they can't and there's a confrontation with Bayraktars so they can use it to claim the new government has a problem with indigenous defense industry since they know many of the opposition electorate also support Baykar.
 

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They're giving a lot of Demirören property to Bayraktars, so when the next government tries to take his properties instead of the unpaid loans, they can't and there's a confrontation with Bayraktars so they can use it to claim the new government has a problem with indigenous defense industry since they know many of the opposition electorate also support Baykar.
You're drowning in conspiracy theories.

Baykar bought the production facility with their own money to increase drone production. There is no limit to the lies. Badmouthing the most successful Turkish private technology company.
 
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