TR 2023 Turkish presidential election

[GoatsMilk]

Foreign political circles continue to appeal to the Turkish people regarding the 14 May elections.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1654727294701690881

i cant these shitheads, they sell the Turkish nation out in the nations they reside in for personal gain. Where are all the Turks in europe who are willing to stand up for Turkiye on the political spectrum, the only ones we see are the ones who attack the Turkish state and its people.

 

[Angry Turk !!!]

If Turkiye were to disintegrate along the lines of sevres as they tried before, we would soon after cease to exist. Our enemies having broken our back would then look to slaughter the remaining regions with Turks and no one in the world will come to our aid. The west wont talk about it and if they do they will show it as a good thing happening. The east would consider it as something that isn't their problem. The "so-called" Muslim world will either help the invaders or the few that generally care for us are too weak to do anything about it.

If we look regionally and the games at play, our enemies have been trying to bury us for a long time.

Concerning Greece, the west unilaterally sides with all of their claims and ambitions in the region. From the Aegean to the east med. They pretend as if the TRNC does not exist. The illegal attempted coup and ethnic genocide of the Muslims Turks of the Cyprus island is not talked about. They constantly inflame tensions.

Concerning Armenia a nation whose allied to Russia and supported the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Her lies and her slanders are supported by the west. Her territorial ambitions were being treated seriously by the west. A war mongering nation is portrayed as a victim. Despite Turkiye being in NATO, NATO sides with Russias Armenian ally against us.

Concerning the PKK the east and west unite to support these terrorists to undermine our sovereignty. In the case of Syria we even see the USA and Russia working together against Turkiye. In the same way we see France and Russia working together in Libya against Turkiye.


Ultimately Ataturk saved this nation from extermination, its why i cannot tolerate stinking political pseudo islamists taught and trained in american schools attacking the great man. The only kind of person that could hate Ataturk is the kind of person that hates Turks. I enjoy seeing Ataturks signature on all our military developments, i would like to see Baykar do the same, maybe a portrait of Ataturk in their offices too. By respecting Ataturk we shit on our enemies hatreds of us.

Just like back in the day when the Russian Tsar was communicating with patriarch of istanbul on how to undermine and conquer the Turks. He told the Russians that the Turks can only be conquered when their national ethnic conscience and islamic faith is destroyed.

Under AK party they played an insidious game where they tried to make Muslims hate Nationalists and for Nationalists to hate Muslims, to divide the two strongest pillars of our nation and make them work to destroy the other.

With so many evil plans against our Country we still managed to not nave Nukes, go figure...

 

[Lool]

Foreign political circles continue to appeal to the Turkish people regarding the 14 May elections.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1654727294701690881

Why do I feel that especially Germany, among many EU states, are heavily involved in Turkish politics

 

[GoatsMilk]

With so many evil plans against our Country we still managed to not nave Nukes, go figure...

Nukes will not defend against ideological subversion or incrementalism. Our conventional might has to reach 1st world standards and it incrementally has to be deployed.

But on the ideological subversion this is far harder to combat because the common citizen doesnt have the time or the critical thinking ability to understand what is happening. He believes what his leaders tell and he believes what the leaders media tells him, he cannot see beyond that. Just like when AK party were promoting Ocalan a western proxy and an enemy of Turks and Islam, they started to believe he was a good guy.

Our conventional might looks like its on a good path, within 20 years i suspect we will be fielding one of the most advanced and powerful militaries on earth. But this relentless ideological subversion from every single direction, i dont know if Turkiye will be able to defeat that.

Most Turks have not even read one book, many of them have become affiliates to cults and fraternities, these people are the abundance of useful idiots that can are are being used to subvert the nation in the exact same way the FETO cult was.

I've met various leaders of various religious orders over the years and they breed a zombie like obedience to the cause. They say vote this way or support this person and before you know it they treat everyone who doesn't agree with it as an enemy. Its bad bad news for Turkiye.

And when it comes to trillion dollar economy of the USA if they want to subvert these orders all they need to influence the leader, either with financial bribes or they get them to engage in with filthy sexual deeds which they record and use as blackmail.

A good example of this was the greek orthodox leader of cyprus who the british forced to vote a certain way otherwise they would release footage of him having sex with underage boys.

 

[Lool]

Exactly. That's why we should take our heads out of partisanship and look at the horizon. Apart from these political daily bickering, we should stay within the common denominator. Whichever party cadres will shape the new era, isolationism will be our death warrant.

I appreciate Kılıçdaroğlu when he gives guarantees to his people on very issues which I mentioned above. I think he has a big baggage on his back, Chp braintrust created very weird alliance model, I don't know how he can carry it and how he can get rid of it, but I don't find it right for him too, to give such guarantees that we will turn our faces to the west in the post-2016 paradigm. Kılıçdaroğlu should say that we will build our own power centre, we will push back and not give up on all the red lines that the USA, the wannabe Reichs or Little Corporal cross.

I am not interested in Kılıçdaroğlu's statements about onions and tomatoes,I'm saying this as a friend of yours who's been through a lot in the last 5 years. Also, since he comes from a social democratic tradition, it can increase the contact and support of the state to the people. Regarding welfare, what we experienced in the first 10 years of the AKP was mostly related to global markets and the monetary policies of the FED, The price of that money-abundance was paid with the nonsense of the solution process and the Atlanticists pushing the state to the edge of the cliff. Anatolian Turkish people have never been a Swiss in any period of their history, Especially in times when the ideal of independence was paramount. I have only one vote, and I will not vote for Mr Kemal's onions, nor for Mr Recep's similar statements. These are not my real priority among the things I am interested in.

Honestly, I think that before worrying about all of those things, I think we should concentrate on how the Turkish state is currently polarised.
Rn those who are voting for RTE are being cursed and slandered and those who are voting for KK are being cursed and slandered by the opposite side

RTE recently posted on twitter about how those who are voting, regardless of whom they are voting for, shouldnt slander the opposite party since at the end they are one nation regardless of their political affiliation or religion but even then he himself got slandered and cursed as well

With the current trend, Turkey and Turks will be involved in a withchunt against their own brethen

 

[Angry Turk !!!]

Nukes will not defend against ideological subversion or incrementalism. Our conventional might has to reach 1st world standards and it incrementally has to be deployed.

But on the ideological subversion this is far harder to combat because the common citizen doesnt have the time or the critical thinking ability to understand what is happening. He believes what his leaders tell and he believes what the leaders media tells him, he cannot see beyond that. Just like when AK party were promoting Ocalan a western proxy and an enemy of Turks and Islam, they started to believe he was a good guy.

Our conventional might looks like its on a good path, within 20 years i suspect we will be fielding one of the most advanced and powerful militaries on earth. But this relentless ideological subversion from every single direction, i dont know if Turkiye will be able to defeat that.

Most Turks have not even read one book, many of them have become affiliates to cults and fraternities, these people are the abundance of useful idiots that can are are being used to subvert the nation in the exact same way the FETO cult was.

Our people then need to get educated. Easier said than done of course but it's necessary.

 

[Angry Turk !!!]

Honestly, I think that before worrying about all of those things, I think we should concentrate on how the Turkish state is currently polarised.
Rn those who are voting for RTE are being cursed and slandered and those who are voting for KK are being cursed and slandered by the opposite side

RTE recently posted on twitter about how those who are voting, regardless of whom they are voting for, shouldnt slander the opposite party since at the end they are one nation regardless of their political affiliation or religion but even then he himself got wlandered and cursed as well

With the current trend, Turkey and Turks will be involved in a withchunt against their own brethen

Sounds like divide and conquer to me.

 

[Deliorman]

No offense and while I do partially agree to your theory I dont think that this is all

Firstly, whether you like it or not, Ottoman empire is a part of Turkish history especially when current Turkiye is recognised as the official successor of the Ottoman empire. The Ottomans did both good and bad but having ppl embrace the fact that their ancestors built one of the most powerful empires in histroy isnt a bad thing

Moreover, you ppl criticise them for wearing Ottoman clothes but during the world cup, in Qatar, I saw no one criticising how Western fans were wearing Crusades armor during matches! In fact, ppl seemed to love it! Now, I dare you tell me how on earth was the period of the Crusades better than the Ottomans? In fact, it was worse. The crusades were done to reduce the nukber of mouths the states have to feed by throwing the poor people on death missions every now amd then

But somehow we like that and hate when Turkish ppl wear historical clothes

Lets leave the inferiority complex that was drilled by the West unto Turkish minds aside and lets look at the future while embracing and learning from the past

Nobody cares about a bunch of drunk English chavs dressed like knights on a football game... Football games are for having fun and enjoying yourself so even if they went there butt naked nobody would care. Why are you even giving me a lecture on if Crusaders or Ottomans were better? Again nobody cares and it is unimportant to the topic.

Elections is where the future of a nation is decided.

When you live in Berlin or Amsterdam and vote for the Leftist parties there, use the welfare of their states and earn in Euros but then you go to the Turkish Embassy dressed like an Ottoman Sultan, with a sword on your waist, showing off how big of a Nationalist you are... well this is ironic and funny but in a Pathetic kind of way.

 

[Lool]

Bro you dont even wanna know how many Turks I came across that call the Ottomans as Arabs or the Arab Empire.

When these dumbasses dont realise in official Arab sources and Arab history they teach in their schools.

The Ottoman Empire literally called the Turkish Empire.

In European sources the Ottomans are Imperium Turcicum. Which translates to Turkish Empire.

The popular discourse is always to curse your own history.

I met many people who constantly curse or cuss at Ataturk.

Im not gonna force people to love the Ottomans or Ataturk. But people should respect them thats all and try to be fair when it comes to history.

You will get none lf that because its all polarising you got to take a side. If you love the Ottomans you have to hate Ataturk if you love the Ottomans or Seljuks you have to hate Ataturk. You see what I mean if you are a person who appreciates them all your basically the odd one out.

Good thing my history teacher despite him being Australian and a Westerner taught me a lot.

He said even if we are bias you always have to be fair when it comes to history not use it for our own agendas.

Turkiye needs to reform its own history classes and start to teach history properly.

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It is wrong to follow the notion of "if you like the Ottoman empire you should hate Ataturk and vice versa"
Ataturk was an officer in the Ottoman army and learned how to fight and command in warfare in Ottoman schools. The Otttomans, just like with any other empire, had to face its end and Ataturk saved the Turks from near extinction! But he couldnt have saved it if he didnt get either the knowledge from Ottoman schools or experience during the wars he fought with the Ottoman army

The current discourse in Turks is due to previous politicians implementing other nations' agenda by polarising the nation as well as the inferiority complex that was drilled into them since childhood. This needs to change!

Turks need to embrace the past, learn from its mistakes, gain from its lessons and advantages and plan for the future so that future generations can proudly raise their heads and say: "Iam a turk and we are the ones who have determined most of history"
Nothing wrong with that since at least it is better than the West which treats each and every other state as some kind of shithole

 

[dBSPL]

Why do I feel that especially Germany, among many EU states, are heavily involved in Turkish politics

This is nothing new, it's always been like this. German intelligence has traditionally always been at the forefront of both the indoctrination and the organisational activities of the PKK, but also for radical Marxist organisations which today most of them have same positions as the Pkk. The reasons for this and its historical development need to be discussed in great detail; it would be too limiting to deal with it in the context of the elections. If you are in the middle age group, you should remember the years when German MPs were welcomed with flowers in the pkk camps and carried out propaganda activities on behalf of the pkk in the villages and provinces of our country. Now they are content with crying from afar.

Cem Özdemir is a pro-Pkk German who only knows how to speak Turkish. Nothing more.

 

[Lool]

It is already beginning

A lot of reports about how CHP fans being beaten near to death by AKP fans are also emerging
Moreover, recently 4 pro-AKP Turkish citizens who rejected the idea of kurdistan during a discussion in a resturant was beaten nearly to death by pro-PKK/HDP fans

Turks will kill each other at this rate

Translation:
A 10-year-old boy who entered the CHP election office in Bursa with a weather vane with the AK Party logo was boiled with boiling tea.
MA, who threw tea on the child's back, was arrested and sent to prison.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1654811391126310913

 

[Ryder]

This is nothing new, it's always been like this. German intelligence has traditionally always been at the forefront of both the indoctrination and the organisational activities of the PKK, but also of other radical Marxist organisations. The reasons for this and its historical development need to be discussed in great detail; it would be too limiting to deal with it in the context of the elections. If you are in the middle age group, you should remember the years when German MPs were welcomed with flowers in the pkk camps and carried out propaganda activities on behalf of the pkk in the villages and provinces of our country. Now they are content with crying from afar.

Cem Özdemir is a pro-Pkk German who only knows how to speak Turkish. Nothing more.

Germans all of them should be put on a watch list.

 

[Ryder]

A few Germans got killed by TSK.

They are not Turkish or Kurds but ethnic Germans who came as tourists and smuggled themselves into Syria or Iraq.

 

[Bozan]

Why do I feel that especially Germany, among many EU states, are heavily involved in Turkish politics

Why not ? Erdogan asked Libya and Azerbaijan to support his election campaign. Seems fair to me

 

[dBSPL]

Germans all of them should be put on a watch list.

The peak of our relations with Germany was the period of the solution process idiocy. In 2015, there was a dramatic change in relations when the Turkish army put its body against the uprising of the Hdp with Demirtas' leadership, and immediately afterwards, in 2016, against the attempts to establish a PKK state in Syria. In a very short period of time, EU countries started to directly target the Turkish Armed Forces and the national defence industry. The embargo waves were in fact their desperation in the face of the dedication of the Turkish army, which they thought they had destroyed with the Fetö terrorist organisation, but the dedication of the Turkish army that prevented goverments' mistakes from reaching the point of no return. This desperate idiocy led to the transformation of NATO's eastern flank into a more autonomous power, with geopolitical consequences even in favour of Russia.

 

[Ryder]

This is nothing new, it's always been like this. German intelligence has traditionally always been at the forefront of both the indoctrination and the organisational activities of the PKK, but also for radical Marxist organisations which today most of them have same positions as the Pkk. The reasons for this and its historical development need to be discussed in great detail; it would be too limiting to deal with it in the context of the elections. If you are in the middle age group, you should remember the years when German MPs were welcomed with flowers in the pkk camps and carried out propaganda activities on behalf of the pkk in the villages and provinces of our country. Now they are content with crying from afar.

Cem Özdemir is a pro-Pkk German who only knows how to speak Turkish. Nothing more.

This man also visited Pkk during the Cizre clashes.

If only the TSK sent a mortar strike.

Thats the problem with us Turks we are too merciful.

If it was the Russians, Israelis or the Chinese they would obliterated the place.

 

[demir283]

Nobody cares about a bunch of drunk English chavs dressed like knights on a football game... Football games are for having fun and enjoying yourself so even if they went there butt naked nobody would care. Why are you even giving me a lecture on if Crusaders or Ottomans were better? Again nobody cares and it is unimportant to the topic.

Elections is where the future of a nation is decided.

When you live in Berlin or Amsterdam and vote for the Leftist parties there, use the welfare of their states and earn in Euros but then you go to the Turkish Embassy dressed like an Ottoman Sultan, with a sword on your waist, showing off how big of a Nationalist you are... well this is ironic and funny but in a Pathetic kind of way.

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Funny, doesn't this also apply to Bulgarian Turkish ? i mean, i know lots of Bulgarians Turkish who still have double nationality and double names (Bulgarian names) because of welfare they don't want to lose ? From this point of perspective. i mean why did many bulgarian Turkish did vote for Bulgarians election ? or many Bulgarians Turks who lives in EU and have nationality and still vote for Bulgarians ? So i suggest look from broad perspective. When Dutch can vote in Australia for Holland, Turks should also able to vote for their homeland country.

 

[Angry Turk !!!]

Thats the problem with us Turks we are too merciful.

100% agree. And that weakness only hurts ourselves.

 

[I_Love_F16]

Funny, doesn't this also apply to Bulgarian Turkish ? i mean, i know lots of Bulgarians Turkish who still have double nationality and double names (Bulgarian names) because of welfare they don't want to lose ? From this point of perspective. i mean why did many bulgarian Turkish did vote for Bulgarians election ? or many Bulgarians Turks who lives in EU and have nationality and still vote for Bulgarians ? So i suggest look from broad perspective. When Dutch can vote in Australia for Holland, Turks should also able to vote for their homeland country.

People shoudn't have the right to vote for the election of a country they don't live in. Period.

 

[Deliorman]

Funny, doesn't this also apply to Bulgarian Turkish ? i mean, i know lots of Bulgarians Turkish who still have double nationality and double names (Bulgarian names) because of welfare they don't want to lose ? From this point of perspective. i mean why did many bulgarian Turkish did vote for Bulgarians election ? or many Bulgarians Turks who lives in EU and have nationality and still vote for Bulgarians ? So i suggest look from broad perspective. When Dutch can vote in Australia for Holland, Turks should also able to vote for their homeland country.

99% of all Bulgarian Turks that are double citizens of Bulgaria and Turkey live in Turkey, work in Turkey, pay their taxes in Turkey and don't get any welfare from Bulgaria. Some of the older people get pensions from Bulgaria but this is because they have worked for many years here and it is their right.

As for why they vote in Bulgarian elections- only like 1/5 of them do and even they shouldn't in my opinion. Only people that are living in the country for at least a certain period of time must have the opportunity to chose it's government. I don't care if it is Turks, Bulgarians or Gypsies and if they live in Turkey, the EU or America- if you don't live here, just don't decide the country's future.