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99% of all Bulgarian Turks that are double citizens of Bulgaria and Turkey live in Turkey, work in Turkey, pay their taxes in Turkey and don't get any welfare from Bulgaria. Some of the older people get pensions from Bulgaria but this is because they have worked for many years here and it is their right.

As for why they vote in Bulgarian elections- only like 1/5 of them do and even they shouldn't in my opinion. Only people that are living in the country for at least a certain period of time must have the opportunity to chose it's government. I don't care if it is Turks, Bulgarians or Gypsies and if they live in Turkey, the EU or America- if you don't live here, just don't decide the country's future.

- it's very funny because, i know lots of Bulgarian Turks who lives in Turkiye also not share their income from Bulgaria or ownership of land with Türkiye. yet they get double income and pension, this could also have Tax issues or subsidy. By common definition, this is called Tax evasion.

Citizen are equal, they have every right like do . So i suggest get over with it. There are Turkish personals that work for government in foreign country. Just because you are short minded ideology doesn't mean they have no right to choose. this kind of mindset is equal to "discrimination". Because you are not gov nor represent the country alone.

Almost all country does and when Türkiye does it become problematic. it's very discriminating POV...

Germany

Article 12( of the Federal Voting Act states that German citizens who live abroad and have no residence in Germany may vote in German parliamentary elections and European Parliament elections if:

a) they have resided in Germany for an uninterrupted period of at least three months since their 14th birthday and within the last 25 years; or

b) they have a close personal and direct relationship with German politics and are personally affected by political developments in Germany.


Netherlands
Dutch citizens who live abroad (and have deregistered as Dutch residents) are allowed to vote in elections for the House of Representatives and for the European Parliament, but cannot vote in municipal or provincial elections. They must register as voters in order to vote from abroad.

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French citizens living abroad enjoy full voting rights in presidential and parliamentary elections, regardless of how long they have lived abroad.

France has a dedicated Assembly of French Citizens Abroad, the president of which is the French Foreign Minister. France also has a system of 11 constituencies for French residents overseas, each of which are represented by a deputy who sits in the National Assembly.
 
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of course the millions of arab economic migrants they allowed to flood the country will be manipulated to vote for AK party and undermine directly the Turkish vote. We have politicians who shit on the nation, who have no respect for the nation. Its all power game and money game to them.
wow, this is some discrimination. in UK there are other language explanatory flayers even for vote for British citizens who can't talk proper English, why not in Türkiye ? If person owned Turkish citizenship.. so please refrain your self with silly comments.
 

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Honestly, I think that before worrying about all of those things, I think we should concentrate on how the Turkish state is currently polarised.
Rn those who are voting for RTE are being cursed and slandered and those who are voting for KK are being cursed and slandered by the opposite side

RTE recently posted on twitter about how those who are voting, regardless of whom they are voting for, shouldnt slander the opposite party since at the end they are one nation regardless of their political affiliation or religion but even then he himself got slandered and cursed as well

With the current trend, Turkey and Turks will be involved in a withchunt against their own brethen
Ahhahahaahah. This comes from erdogan is the funniest thing. He was calling opposition, Sürtük couple months ago. Everyday he calls those who oppose him, monşer, vatan haini, terrorist etc. His favorite word is BUNLAR.

You are so “naive” if i put it in a polite way
 

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wow, this is some discrimination. in UK there are other language explanatory flayers even for vote for British citizens who can't talk proper English, why not in Türkiye ? If person owned Turkish citizenship.. so please refrain your self with silly comments.

stop playing naive games. They "INTENTIONALLY" flooded the country with more economic migrants then the entire EU combined, then they give them citizenship to get them to vote. Its another example of dirty politics by AK party.

Lets call a spade a spade.

The flooding btw will continue until AK party gets enough people who will accept theocratic dictartorship. Thats why its happening, its not a mistake its entirely calculated.

The common Turk doesn't want Sharia, theocracy or dictatorship. But bring in 20 to 30 million mena types who as long as the state is feeding them will accept any kind of rule.
 

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stop playing naive games. They "INTENTIONALLY" flooded the country with more economic migrants then the entire EU combined, then they give them citizenship to get them to vote. Its another example of dirty politics by AK party.

Lets call a spade a spade.

The flooding btw will continue until AK party gets enough people who will accept theocratic dictartorship. Thats why its happening, its not a mistake its entirely calculated.

The common Turk doesn't want Sharia, theocracy or dictatorship. But bring in 20 to 30 million mena types who as long as the state is feeding them will accept any kind of rule.

- I mean you can hate the politics, but creating this kind of discrimination POV is very disturbing, let us look at your perspective. Omg how many illegal Turks entered Britain pas 20 years lets's remove them and send back to Turkiye.

- By your definition, British should disband and remove British prime minister who happen to be Different ethnic INDIAN origin ? or Scotland should be worried about their future because the prime minister happens pray 5 times ? .

OMG Britain become very dictatorial Islamic Country . Next time, Kings begins with everything with bissmillah

because your funny POV create false implication. So when Christian Democrat ruled Germany for years do they create a new inquisition ?

i suggest get over with it. If a person happens to be a Turkish citizen and has low Turkish talking abilities, they have every right. Like you do in Britain and other British citizen who doesn't talk very well English.


I am not pro gov but nor i blame and create false accusations. You stated as r dictatorial etc. . Well, if he was dictator you wouldn't vote in the first place. he is on the rule fo 20 year, yet you see nakedness and every aspect of the common western lifestyle . Which makes your text very irrelevant and shamefully silly.
 

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- I mean you can hate the politics, but creating this kind of discrimination POV is very disturbing, let us look at your perspective.

- By your definition, British should disband and remove British prime minister who happen to be Different ethnic INDIAN origin ? or Scotland should be worried about their future because the prime minister happens pray 5 times ? .

OMG Britain become very dictatorial Islamic Country . Next time, Kings begins with everything with bissmillah

because your funny POV create false implication. So when Christian Democrat ruled Germany for years do they create a new inquisition ?

i suggest get over with it. If a person happens to be a Turkish citizen and has low Turkish talking abilities, they have every right. Like you do in Britain and other British citizen who doesn't talk very well English.


I am not pro gov but nor i blame and create false accusations. You stated as r dictatorial etc. . Well, if he was dictator you wouldn't vote in the first place. he is on the rule fo 20 year, yet you see nakedness and every aspect of the common western lifestyle . Which makes your text very irrelevant and shamefully silly.

got no time for this sort of ignorance.
 

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The guy is fucked in the head, ignore that fake turk.

You have a country that is economically already quite poor. The last 10 years we have seen record lira depreciations constantly that the lira internationally is seen as a joke currency.

We then have the "political islamist virus" that incrementally aims to strip away liberties and personal rights of all individuals.

So the worst thing that could happen to Turkiye is for millions of MENA types to flood the country. That's not a slur on these people and i don't blame these people looking for something better. They are just a victim in this game and useful tool by the administration.

So shite economy and government attempting to incrementally create a theocratic dictatorship. By allowing millions to flood the country literally more then the entire EU combined up until the Ukraine war leads to aiding these problems.

Economically they become a burden on the state, the tax payer is feeding them. Then when they are employed they are paid off the books meaning they are paid less and that job no longer exists so unemployment becomes higher. The Turkish citizen finds it harder to find work.

Then politically these people feel their existence in the country rests of the political islamists, they dont care about the country, they just care about being able to feed themselves, they will vote for whatever aids that ambition. Then you combine with the fact that these people are easier to fool with sharia ummah nonsense, they will help being about theocratic dictatorship.

There is a way for people to enter a country and that way should be to follow a process provided the nation wants or needs immigrants. No nation should be subject to millions of people entering their lands at a whim. Thats madness.

Meanwhile we get brainwashed by retarded statements like "Turkiye is the cure for humanity", absolute nonsense. And how arrogant to claim that Turkiye a poor country with massive internal sectarian divides is the "cure for humanity.
 

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Add that profchaos to the ignore list dont risk yourselves getting banned.

Mods will be cracking down on this page.

So everybody chill. Delete your posts that might violate rules.

I got banned a lot of times trust me its not worth it.
 

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You have a country that is economically already quite poor. The last 10 years we have seen record lira depreciations constantly that the lira internationally is seen as a joke currency.

We then have the "political islamist virus" that incrementally aims to strip away liberties and personal rights of all individuals.

So the worst thing that could happen to Turkiye is for millions of MENA types to flood the country. That's not a slur on these people and i don't blame these people looking for something better. They are just a victim in this game and useful tool by the administration.

So shite economy and government attempting to incrementally create a theocratic dictatorship. By allowing millions to flood the country literally more then the entire EU combined up until the Ukraine war leads to aiding these problems.

Economically they become a burden on the state, the tax payer is feeding them. Then when they are employed they are paid off the books meaning they are paid less and that job no longer exists so unemployment becomes higher. The Turkish citizen finds it harder to find work.

Then politically these people feel their existence in the country rests of the political islamists, they dont care about the country, they just care about being able to feed themselves, they will vote for whatever aids that ambition. Then you combine with the fact that these people are easier to fool with sharia ummah nonsense, they will help being about theocratic dictatorship.

There is a way for people to enter a country and that way should be to follow a process provided the nation wants or needs immigrants. No nation should be subject to millions of people entering their lands at a whim. Thats madness.

Meanwhile we get brainwashed by retarded statements like "Turkiye is the cure for humanity", absolute nonsense. And how arrogant to claim that Turkiye a poor country with massive internal sectarian divides is the "cure for humanity.


don't hate Islam too much, look how your country does :) i mean it's not proper to call scotland British elected priminister a virus /

so by your definition we will see flying carpets and Hindus in Britain how cool :D do they also worship cows now ????

you need to get over with religious discrimination if you want to objective opinion.,...
 
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don't hate Islam too much, look how your country does :) i mean it's not proper to call British elected priminister a virus /

so by your definition we will see flying carpets and Hindus in Britain how cool :D do they also worship cows now ????

deat got you need to get over with religous discrimination if you want to objective openium.,...
Thats a big problem for britain. Thats not something that they are proud of.

and you cannot call people who doesnt want 10 million rafugee-illegal migrants in a country. That has nothing to do with racism. With that action you are literally fucking up a countries future. You already have a kurdish problem and 10 years later you will have a syrian problem. Plus they have no right to vote or decide the future of the country.
 
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In a long message, Izetbegovic emphasised RTE's mean for Bosnia and the role he plays in the Balkans and called on all Bosnians who are Turkish citizens to vote for RTE.


One by one, heads of state and important political figures with whom RTE has close relations are declaring their sides in the Turkish elections.

@Mehmed Ali

I think we are experiencing an election process that is being followed closely not only for us but also in many parts of the world. Unusually, not only through the media but this time we are witnessing a process in which party leaders and even members of governments in foreign countries are directly issuing calls about the elections in Turkiye, for one reason or another.
Following Izzetbegovic: Afrim Gaşhi, President of the Alternativa Party in Macedonia, MP Skender Rexhepi, Deputy Speaker of the Macedonian Parliament Hüsnü İsmaili, and Bilal Kasami, President of the Besa Party, also called on all Turkish citizen Albanians and Balkanians to vote for RTE in their video messages. Some of important political figures of the Turkish-Albanian brothership in Macedonia thus showed their sides in the 14 May elections. (Off the note, Macedonia is one of the countries where TIKA is most effective. They have undertaken numerous infrastructure, revitalisation of Albanian-Muslim cultural heritage and social projects for young people.) @Lool
 
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@demir283 No offense but you are completely delusional. You remind me those brainwashed leftists who turned the entire European Union into a trash dump by allowing millions of immigrants during decades. Anyway keep playing the one who doesn't know. Erdogan just created another PKK 2.0 issue. Coming years will be painful.
 

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Guess what they are true. Those who use racism can't attempt proper discussing ;)
No, you completely misunderstood his point about economic migrants who were gifted citizenship vs your discussion about illegal immigrants, who would not have rights to vote.

He's not said anything controversial. Your western leftist gag-reflex kicked in, is all.
 

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Today was an important test for the CHP
It was a test for KK to see whether he can do what Erdogan and Ince did before by filling up the rally area in Istanbul
Sadly, while managing to gather thousands to the rally today, Kilicdaroglu failed to do what Erdogan and his predecessors did; as a result, CHP supporters started to spread pictures of AK Party rally in Istanbul that was held in 2014 to reassure their supporters that they are going strong and ended up stepping into new lows......

Information warfare is beginning and the fake info from the CHP's side has begun to spread; lets see whether Erdogan can fill Ataturk National Garden tomorrow or not as a test for him. Lets see what fake info will the AKP release if they failed to fill the arena


 

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Today was an important test for the CHP
It was a test for KK to see whether he can do what Erdogan and Ince did before by filling up the rally area in Istanbul
Sadly, while managing to gather thousands to the rally today, Kilicdaroglu failed to do what Erdogan and his predecessors did; as a result, CHP supporters started to spread pictures of AK Party rally in Istanbul that was held in 2014 to reassure their supporters that they are going strong and ended up stepping into new lows......

Information warfare is beginning and the fake info from the CHP's side has begun to spread; lets see whether Erdogan can fill Ataturk National Garden tomorrow or not as a test for him. Lets see what fake info will the AKP release if they failed to fill the arena


I think CHP couldnt well organised, or I guess they didn't overdo it. There are more CHP 'active' supporters in Maltepe-Kartal-Kadıköy alone than today in rally area. Maltepe around is a constituency where both CHP and some other parties supporting Kılıçdaroğlu are very strong. Today I was in the district centre of Maltepe around 2 o'clock, near Maltepe Camii, normally the district should have been packed, but despite the ongoing construction of a tunnel on the minibus road there was no deadlock like in previous CHP rallies. CHP has organised giant rallies here before where people even blocked the coastal roads, like 2018. Or Kılıçdaroğlu's justice rally in Maltepe before.

However, it should be noted that, as you have written before, square rallies are used as a pr and actually as a psychological tool. Making definite conclusions about voter tendencies by looking at the crowds in the squares does not always produce healthy results. For example, in 2018, the MHP received over 11 per cent of the votes despite not being able to fill the squares. What is important is the work of the organisations in the field.

AKP's choice of location is much better in terms of transport, Akp will probably organise hundreds of buses from all over the city to overtake CHP's crowd. Basically a pissing contest. lol. Leaving aside the nonsense that your rally is more crowded, my rally is more crowded, the votes of the two alliances seem to be very close to each other. Especially Istanbul is not a city that will be decisive in this respect. I think the earthquake-affected regions and a few critical regions in Anatolia will play a decisive role.
 

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wow, this is some discrimination. in UK there are other language explanatory flayers even for vote for British citizens who can't talk proper English, why not in Türkiye ? If person owned Turkish citizenship.. so please refrain your self with silly comments.
We are not United States of Turkiye or United Kingdom of Turkiye 🤷🏻‍♂️
 
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