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Interviewer: Who will you support in the second round?

Sinan Oğan: Whoever is more national in the conditions of that day, whoever distances himself from terrorism, we will walk with him.


Almost same question was asked to Muharrem Ince before...
Ince: "Never, never, never. (...) There is no possibility of my agreement with Erdoğan. I have not discussed this issue with the Cumhur Alliance and I never will.
 
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This guy will be the kingmaker.
Nationalist segments will be the determinant of this election, I wrote this months ago, some friends do not want to believe it, but this is the case.

Sinan Oğan is actually preparing for 2028(I mean next election which could be earlier). A profile that can unite all nationalists.
 

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OK the operation "create a crisis" is in full swing, I guess. These same people who would gladly drag the country into civil war to protect their interests, claim to be patriots. What a sick joke.
 

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OK the operation "create a crisis" is in full swing, I guess. These same people who would gladly drag the country into civil war to protect their interests, claim to be patriots. What a sick joke.
What happened in Erzurum today is a shame. But there is also the back of the picture. Imamoğlu was not attacked at the rally but on road. While giving a speech to a group of 150-200 people on the road, incidents occurred. A group of people who you think are CHP members but who are probably Hdp members in terms of their methods throw stones at the group protesting against Imamoğlu and the events get out of control. CHP's vote in Erzurum is under 5 per cent, the main support group of KK here is Demirtaş voters.

If you salute Demirtaş at a rally and greet the participants with Hdp flags with the victory sign, which has become the ideological symbol of the PKK, even a person who cannot speak properly can go to a coffee house or billiard saloon in Erzurum and gather 50 ignorant young in 15 minutes. This is the most conservative city in Turkiye, and there are neighbourhoods where bigoted people live to the extent that even most conservatives are overwhelmed.

I say it clearly: If Kılıçdaroğlu releases Demirtaş as he promised and decrees on related issues are cancelled, civil war will break out that day. CHP cadres should come to their senses. Most people have no idea what the consequences of this would be. Unless Kılıçdaroğlu can get rid of this strange structure that surrounds him like a shell, there will be a crisis as soon as he takes over the government. Can take Oğan, Ince already has one simple condition. Namely that KK is not doomed to learn the hard way, he still have opportunity to correct his very fundemental mistakes. There are boundaries that can be crossed, and there are boundaries that should never be crossed. You underestimate what kind of security paranoia this country has felt by US proxies after post-2015-2016. Not KK, not RTE, no human in the world can reverse this process. It is necessary to embrace this reality instead of fighting it.
 

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Nationalist segments will be the determinant of this election, I wrote this months ago, some friends do not want to believe it, but this is the case.

Sinan Oğan is actually preparing for 2028(I mean next election which could be earlier). A profile that can unite all nationalists.
Ahahahah. Next election... best joke ever.
 

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What happened in Erzurum today is a shame. But there is also the back of the picture. Imamoğlu was not attacked at the rally but on road. While giving a speech to a group of 150-200 people on the road, incidents occurred. A group of people who you think are CHP members but who are probably Hdp members in terms of their methods throw stones at the group protesting against Imamoğlu and the events get out of control. CHP's vote in Erzurum is under 5 per cent, the main support group of KK here is Demirtaş voters.

If you salute Demirtaş at a rally and greet the participants with Hdp flags with the victory sign, which has become the ideological symbol of the PKK, even a person who cannot speak properly can go to a coffee house or billiard saloon in Erzurum and gather 50 ignorant young in 15 minutes. This is the most conservative city in Turkiye, and there are neighbourhoods where bigoted people live to the extent that even most conservatives are overwhelmed.

I say it clearly: If Kılıçdaroğlu releases Demirtaş as he promised and decrees on related issues are cancelled, civil war will break out that day. CHP cadres should come to their senses. Most people have no idea what the consequences of this would be. Unless Kılıçdaroğlu can get rid of this strange structure that surrounds him like a shell, there will be a crisis as soon as he takes over the government. Can take Oğan, Ince already has one simple condition. Namely that KK is not doomed to learn the hard way, he still have opportunity to correct his very fundemental mistakes. There are boundaries that can be crossed, and there are boundaries that should never be crossed. You underestimate what kind of security paranoia this country has felt by US proxies after post-2015-2016. Not KK, not RTE, no human in the world can reverse this process. It is necessary to embrace this reality instead of fighting it.
Least delusional akp supporter. Yeah imamoglu was talking to 150-200 people and the people who got injured was hdp people. Im saying this this post of yours is not delusion actually this is about being pure bad and lack of ethics.
 

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What happened in Erzurum today is a shame. But there is also the back of the picture. Imamoğlu was not attacked at the rally but on road. While giving a speech to a group of 150-200 people on the road, incidents occurred. A group of people who you think are CHP members but who are probably Hdp members in terms of their methods throw stones at the group protesting against Imamoğlu and the events get out of control. CHP's vote in Erzurum is under 5 per cent, the main support group of KK here is Demirtaş voters.

If you salute Demirtaş at a rally and greet the participants with Hdp flags with the victory sign, which has become the ideological symbol of the PKK, even a person who cannot speak properly can go to a coffee house or billiard saloon in Erzurum and gather 50 ignorant young in 15 minutes. This is the most conservative city in Turkiye, and there are neighbourhoods where bigoted people live to the extent that even most conservatives are overwhelmed.

I say it clearly: If Kılıçdaroğlu releases Demirtaş as he promised and decrees on related issues are cancelled, civil war will break out that day. CHP cadres should come to their senses. Most people have no idea what the consequences of this would be. Unless Kılıçdaroğlu can get rid of this strange structure that surrounds him like a shell, there will be a crisis as soon as he takes over the government. Can take Oğan, Ince already has one simple condition. Namely that KK is not doomed to learn the hard way, he still have opportunity to correct his very fundemental mistakes. There are boundaries that can be crossed, and there are boundaries that should never be crossed. You underestimate what kind of security paranoia this country has felt by US proxies after post-2015-2016. Not KK, not RTE, no human in the world can reverse this process. It is necessary to embrace this reality instead of fighting it.
Sorry, bull.
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This wasn't a real grassroots protest. This wasn't some youngsters showing their disdain. This was a planned provocation from the beginning. All the boundaries you speak of were crossed today when rabid dogs pelted women and kids that had Turkish flags on their hands with stones. Look at them "Demirtaş voters" all incognito even saving the flag! You are also wrong about this being a middle of the road venue for some more visits.

I'll try not to enter this thread any longer until the 15th to not argue with anyone or break anyone's hearts.

Arguing is no longer useful. Hak, hukuk, adalet. All else is secondary. We can argue until infinity between each other after the country is saved next week.
 

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Sorry, bull.
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This wasn't a real grassroots protest. This wasn't some youngsters showing their disdain. This was a planned provocation from the beginning. All the boundaries you speak of were crossed today when rabid dogs pelted women and kids that had Turkish flags on their hands with stones. Look at them "Demirtaş voters" all incognito even saving the flag! You are also wrong about this being a middle of the road venue for some more visits.

I'll try not to enter this thread any longer until the 15th to not argue with anyone or break anyone's hearts.

Arguing is no longer useful. Hak, hukuk, adalet. All else is secondary. We can argue until infinity between each other after the country is saved next week.
There are millions of videos and he says those are not chp people and hdp supporters, plus he says they begin throwing stones first and those 150 thugs answered back. You cannot argue with someone claims that.

this is a planned provacation, governer police chief and all police force are responsible. İmagine an akp rally in the same place and imagine police let chp supporters get 30 metre close it. These people are bad from head to toe and they should pay the price for this. I wonder what would happen if someone died.
İf this thing happened to akp they would milk it and we would watch it until the elections in all turkish media.

akp is no longer a political party, they havent been for a while. What they become is something else that im not gonna name. İ dont name because you know this is a democratic country and you can call the kilicdaroglu the dirtiest names but you cannot call what akp and erdogan is.
If this elections is lost, then there will be nothing left from turkey that make people patriotic.
 

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Another cheap propaganda
I don't know what is funny here @Heartbang. People getting wounded by these thugs probably connected to Ulklu ocaklari? I think whole mhp should be disbanded. They are bunch of mafia.
 

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Sorry, bull.
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This wasn't a real grassroots protest. This wasn't some youngsters showing their disdain. This was a planned provocation from the beginning. All the boundaries you speak of were crossed today when rabid dogs pelted women and kids that had Turkish flags on their hands with stones. Look at them "Demirtaş voters" all incognito even saving the flag! You are also wrong about this being a middle of the road venue for some more visits.

I'll try not to enter this thread any longer until the 15th to not argue with anyone or break anyone's hearts.

Arguing is no longer useful. Hak, hukuk, adalet. All else is secondary. We can argue until infinity between each other after the country is saved next week.
I wonder what age these retards live in, in a normal democratic country they would be punished.
 

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This wasn't a real grassroots protest. This wasn't some youngsters showing their disdain. This was a planned provocation from the beginning. All the boundaries you speak of were crossed today when rabid dogs pelted women and kids that had Turkish flags on their hands with stones. Look at them "Demirtaş voters" all incognito even saving the flag! You are also wrong about this being a middle of the road venue for some more visits.

I'll try not to enter this thread any longer until the 15th to not argue with anyone or break anyone's hearts.

Arguing is no longer useful. Hak, hukuk, adalet. All else is secondary. We can argue until infinity between each other after the country is saved next week.

The group that threw the first stone, made hand gestures and swear words to provoke the other side, and even came there with stones is the other side, you can find more security camera footage with a few clicks. Make your sincere comment on this footage, then let's continue the discussion.
 

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The group that threw the first stone, made hand gestures and swear words to provoke the other side, and even came there with stones is the other side, you can find more security camera footage with a few clicks. Make your sincere comment on this footage, then let's continue the discussion.
First of all, what are those idiots doing there, why are they going there?

We already know that Akp and MHP do not know democracy and do not internalize it.
 

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The group that threw the first stone, made hand gestures and swear words to provoke the other side, and even came there with stones is the other side, you can find more security camera footage with a few clicks. Make your sincere comment on this footage, then let's continue the discussion.
The stones was being thrown from the very start of imamoglus speech. I wonder why they blurred those thugs and colored chp supporters
 

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The group that threw the first stone, made hand gestures and swear words to provoke the other side, and even came there with stones is the other side, you can find more security camera footage with a few clicks. Make your sincere comment on this footage, then let's continue the discussion.
Okay, last one as a reply. I know you are smarter than this but you are letting your judgment be clouded, please don't do it to yourself.

No. I watched the thing live because I sensed something was going to happen in the first place today. This footage is well after the stoning had started. You can see the umbrellas on top of the bus that were used to shield Ekrem from the stones. Watch it from the beginning here. You can see that umbrellas are not there when the announcer announces İmamoğlu at the beginning but comes out few seconds later. Before then, no Millet supporter is pelting stones, it's a regular old miting. Compared to the footage you sent, you can also see that Toma arrives next to the bus at 1:48 point.


And again, this was not a wayward out of the middle location. This was the secondary meeting point after Erzurum Municipality parked multiple city busses on the actual planned meeting point as you can see from winches with speakers, cordoned off area for people etc.

Do not buy into it. This was planned, this was devised to end like this and now they're trying to gain pr points. No brother, do not. Don't blind yourself.
 
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