TR 2023 Turkish presidential election

[Lool]

Very nice advices from Germany So we have to gonna do vice versa as Turkiye

For me, as long as Turkey
1-protects its rights in Libya, Syria, Iraq, Qatar, Azerbaijan, Somali, Cyprus and Balkan states
2- Prevent the Pro-pkk faction in NATO from getting stronger
3- Keep relations with Russia as a balancing card against the US
4- Destroy the PKK
5- Prevent hyperinflation
6- Kick the refugees out but not stupidly
7- Crush Iran

Then I will be happy.
The problem here is that Kilicdaroglu already threw points 1,2,4, 6, and 7 out of the window. For point 5, his promise to raise the minimum wage by 250% and the fact that he hasnt announced an economic team till date (though I do know the reason) proves my previous point that KK has 0 economic sense and will just plunge the country into massive debts to fullfill his fantasies of mega projects and will turn into a Egypt 2.0

 

[Lool]

Anadolu Agency and trust, that seems far-fetched.

Agreed
If the opposition lost, they can just say that Erdo falsified the results on TV. Turkey doesnt have an impartial TV site as there are only either pro-CHP or pro-AKP

I think that there is no need for any fancy stuff. All what is needed is for the election committe to count the votes and announce who won and that is it. Ofcourse each party will have a deputy of its own in each electoral site to count how many votes it got as a safeproof method

 

[demir283]

I swear, I have been criticising KK's stupid econimic reforms and how it will bring chaos to the country particularly the 250% wage increase only for Erdogan to increase the minimum wage by 45%
Apparently, both of those idiots dont know economics

Can you clarify your POV about economics ? i mean adjustment of wage is well important for inflation. not saying 250 but reasonable for 40-50 needed for multiple things.

update may.

Inflation in Turkey continues to fall

Turkey inflation falls on base effects

think.ing.com

cus it was actually stimulates more in positive way also necessary influence. let alone massive earthquake create high food related prices and transportations issues etc.

Q : why do you think wages are chaotic ? curious

 

[TheInsider]

Approx. 1.75 million votes are cast in foreign countries. According to exit polls (ballot box polls), Erdoğan is leading in foreign votes. Sinan Oğan also has a surprisingly high percentage. Of course, Sinan Oğan can still get a low percentage as foreign votes are only a fraction of the total votes so note that this is not meaningful in any way.

Erdogan %38.3
Muharrem İnce %2.1
Kılıçdaroğlu %27.4
Sinan Oğan %24.5

%7.7 didn't want to say their choice when asked.

 

[Lool]

Approx. 1.75 million votes are cast in foreign countries. According to exit polls (ballot box polls), Erdoğan is leading in foreign votes. Sinan Oğan also has a surprisingly high percentage. Of course, Sinan Oğan can still get a low percentage as foreign votes are only a fraction of the total votes so note that this is not meaningful in any way.

Erdogan %38.3
Muharrem İnce %2.1
Kılıçdaroğlu %27.4
Sinan Oğan %24.5

%7.7 didn't want to say their choice when asked.

Damn this is really low for Erdogan
38% is a really low number
Normally, Erdogan used to get 45%+ of the abroad votes

His prospects of losing the elections are increasing day by day

 

[Lool]

Q : why do you think wages are chaotic ? curious

Simply enough,
Turkey is still in massive high inflation. You dont put more pressure in a currency that is already crashing. A 43% inflation isnt a good thing mate. What Erdogan and KK are doing is basically inflate the inflation. If printing money was the magical answer to economic problem and inflation then most countries would have done so

Now that the currency's value is dropping, you want to print more money to allow the average turk to be able to buy stuff? Then the currency's value will devalue more as eventually demand will outweigh availability making imports and products more expensive this in turn will force services to be pricier which in turn forces the govt to print more money and the cycle repeates and this is just the tip of the iceberg to the problem.
Beasts like Nilgiri can explain in more details

You wanna raise the minimum wage? Then do so when the inflation is below 5% and when you have a massive current account surplus

 

[TheInsider]

Approx. 1.75 million votes are cast in foreign countries. According to exit polls (ballot box polls), Erdoğan is leading in foreign votes. Sinan Oğan also has a surprisingly high percentage. Of course, Sinan Oğan can still get a low percentage as foreign votes are only a fraction of the total votes so note that this is not meaningful in any way.

Erdogan %38.3
Muharrem İnce %2.1
Kılıçdaroğlu %27.4
Sinan Oğan %24.5

%7.7 didn't want to say their choice when asked.

BTW I find those percentages really fishy and IMHO both İnce and Oğan will get lower than %10. I will be very surprised if İnce got more than %5 and Ogan got more than %8. I will still vote for Oğan as i want him to negotiate a good deal for people like me with the two candidates in the second round and dictate our wishes to them.

If you can't be a king and wear the crown you should be the man who puts the crown on the head of the king.

 

[Heartbang]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1656309225818058753

I am a different person. My late mother was illiterate. My older sister is also illiterate. So I am one of you.

No comment.

 

[dBSPL]

I want to keep myself away from the agenda for a week, but no way! Every day another scandal, another shame, another filth. It turned out that the person in the fetö leaked porn film alleged to be Muharrem İnce is not Muharrem İnce.

But who cares, Terrorist C*Güven and his team's supporter troll armies from pkk and and fetö twisting the whole politics around his finger. It is one thing to become the head of a party with a sextape, but this is another thing. Voters of any party should not give any sh*t to this scoundrels. It is really disgusting. Horse trace is mixed with dog trace.

 

[Rodeo]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1656309225818058753

No comment.

I couldn't find the source of this quote. When did he say this?

 

[Deliorman]

From Erdogan's rally in Batman today... Dewamke!

 

[dBSPL]

From Erdogan's rally in Batman today... Dewamke!

This is one of the biggest mental eclipses in the country. Selahattin Ayyubi was not Kurdish. The names of his brothers are Tacülmülk Börü, Seyfülislam Tuğtekin, Adil Ebubekir and Şahinşah. It was the great Turkish commander Nûreddin Mahmud Zengi who opened the doors of wisdom to him and trained him. The Zengi's are one of the great overlords of Oghuz Turks of the Avshar arm, who have protected the security and prosperity of Muslims in the geography of Iraq and partially in the geography from Syria to the Red Sea. Their descendants still live in Iraq and Syria today and constitute the Turkmen regions.

Albeit a significant part of the Kurds living in Turkiye are not Kurds too. That is another story too... So actually if this is used as an irony, it's OK, but I don't think so. Most of the country is not yet aware of its history, or even against to it.

 

[demir283]

I couldn't find the source of this quote. When did he say this?

here you can find his comment ... listen...

 

[Rodeo]

here you can find his comment ... listen...

Thanks for going through the trouble of timestamping the video.

Now having watched it, I find it dishonest the way GDH quoted the speech. He doesn't say "Ben farklı bir insanım. Benim rahmetli annem okuma yazma bilmezdi. Büyük ablam da okuma yazma bilmez. Yani sizden birisiyim." consecutively. They clipped some parts of the speech and pieced them together.

This information war is starting to get me. I urge everyone to seek the source of the information they receive.

 

[demir283]

Thanks for going through the trouble of timestamping the video.

Now having watched it, I find it dishonest the way GDH quoted the speech. He doesn't say "Ben farklı bir insanım. Benim rahmetli annem okuma yazma bilmezdi. Büyük ablam da okuma yazma bilmez. Yani sizden birisiyim." consecutively. They clipped some parts of the speech and pieced them together.

- Well he did state the exact same thing " 34:50 " so the twit is actually real. but doesn't tell the whole story... that's all

 

[BalkanTurk90]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1656309225818058753

No comment.

We already knows that he is old man low IQ that others inside and outside will use him as puppet to destroy Turkiye.
So he now said it with his mouth

 

[Rodeo]

- Well he did state the exact same thing " 34:50 " so the twit is actually real. but doesn't tell the whole story... that's all

This is gdh's tweet

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1656309225818058753

The exact quote is(I highlighted the parts they used in their tweet):

"ben onlar gibi degilim. ben farklı bir insanim. ben sizden birisiyim. benim rahmetli annem okuma yazma bilmezdi. benim büyük ablamda okuma yazma bilmez. yedi kardeşten üniversiteye giden sadece benim. dolayısıyla rahmetli babamın yedi çocuğuna bir bayramda ayakkabı aldığını hiç görmedim. parası ne kadar varsa, imkanı ne kadar varsa bir çocuğuna, üc çocuğuna ayakkabı alırdı. yani sizden birisiyim."

when you listen to the speech it sounds perfectly normal. he's telling a story. but when you clip the highlighted parts and piece them together, it sounds absurd. i'm sure you can appreciate the difference.

 

[demir283]

This is gdh's tweet

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1656309225818058753

The exact quote is(I highlighted the parts they used in their tweet):

"ben onlar gibi degilim. ben farklı bir insanim. ben sizden birisiyim. benim rahmetli annem okuma yazma bilmezdi. benim büyük ablamda okuma yazma bilmez. yedi kardeşten üniversiteye giden sadece benim. dolayısıyla rahmetli babamın yedi çocuğuna bir bayramda ayakkabı aldığını hiç görmedim. parası ne kadar varsa, imkanı ne kadar varsa bir çocuğuna, üc çocuğuna ayakkabı alırdı. yani sizden birisiyim."

when you listen to the speech it sounds perfectly normal. he's telling a story. but when you clip the highlighted parts and piece them together, it sounds absurd. i'm sure you can appreciate the difference.

And ? Sorry, but , this whole text and twits posses no significant information even that was removed or used. it's just unnecessary filling by media channels. . It's common practice that also used by opposition or other media.

 

[Rooxbar]

I just saw that video where Erdoğan says these are all terrorists and then the crowd chants: "Kemal, Terrorist". They've cheapend that thing to no end, nobody outside their bubble is going to take that stuff seriously now. Maybe you bring back some of the lost votes, but you ain't winning any new ones. When everybody is a terrorist, nobody is a terrorist. Good job making people insensitive to the word.

 

[BalkanTurk90]

I just saw that video where Erdoğan says these are all terrorists and then the crowd chants: "Kemal, Terrorist". They've cheapend that thing to no end, nobody outside their bubble is going to take that stuff seriously now. Maybe you bring back some of the lost votes, but you ain't winning any new ones. When everybody is a terrorist, nobody is a terrorist. Good job making people insensitive to the word.

We are all that Erdogan should go but in its place to replace weak old KK is risky one , for me Sinan Oğan will be better president and can sent emigrants out and close/ hunt pkk lovers but since Oğan very unlikely will became president than i hope Meral ,Mansur , some CHP nationalists if there are any and Turk Generals of mighty army keeps him in track or he will destroy Turkiye .