TR 2023 Turkish presidential election

[godel44]

Just as expected. Expect Ümit Özdağ to declare support for Kılıçdaroğlu (or stay neutral if KK doesn't make the offer he wants) tomorrow. They are playing a well-known game. Kurdish tribes in the southeast push their own candidates from multiple parties so it doesn't matter who wins tribe always wins.

Here is an example

Şırnak'ta aynı aşiretten 4 isim farklı partilerden birinci sıra adayı oldu

Siyasi partiler milletvekili aday listelerini Yüksek Seçim Kuruluna teslim ederken, Şırnak'ta listelerde yer alan bazı isimler gündem oldu.

www.sondakika.com

Most people who are strangers to Turkish politics won't understand that.

This is exactly what I was thinking they would do. Why risk when you can have both?

That said, if you are somebody like Ogan who has as his first priorities the fight against PKK and Feto, Organization of Turkish States, defense industry etc it would be really hard to say you support Kilicdaroglu. All other topics like the economy and liberalism that would lead to Kilicdaroglu were categorically less important for him.

 

[dBSPL]

Just as expected. Expect Ümit Özdağ to declare support for Kılıçdaroğlu (or stay neutral if KK doesn't make the offer he wants) tomorrow. They are playing a well-known game. Kurdish tribes in the southeast push their own candidates from multiple parties so it doesn't matter who wins tribe always wins.

Here is an example

Şırnak'ta aynı aşiretten 4 isim farklı partilerden birinci sıra adayı oldu

Siyasi partiler milletvekili aday listelerini Yüksek Seçim Kuruluna teslim ederken, Şırnak'ta listelerde yer alan bazı isimler gündem oldu.

www.sondakika.com

Most people who are strangers to Turkish politics won't understand that.

I agree, Özdağ will probably announce his support for KK tomorrow. The two small partners of the ATA alliance have already made an official announcement today. If he stays neutral, the alliance will spread to all three cases, creating an interesting picture. This is also a possibility because a significant part of the 5.5% is the nationalist segment that does not want to vote for both RTE and KK, and leaving this segment in a vacuum may not be the politically correct strategy and may open space for another political figure.

For Ogan, every vote that RTE will put above 49.5 will show his specific weight.

I think the outcome of the election is clear. For me, the most intriguing situation now will be the next 1 month for İYİP. There is silence before the storm.

 

[Crush716]

This guy is a sellout. He’s a crook. He went against everything he said he stood for. He deceived his followers to fill his own pockets and the people will remember him for it. People saw his actual face for what he is which is, he is for himself and not for the people of this country.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1660654310529662980

Sinan Ogan: "We took our decision to support Mr. Erdogan, within the framework of our Kemalist and nationalist principles, without personal expectations."

 

[Crush716]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1660654384982765573

Sinan Ogan announced that he will support Erdogan!

WE DON'T SUPPORT ERDOĞAN!

Never "We are a power that has taken all kinds of nationalism under its feet." We do not support Erdogan who says!

 

[Crush716]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/541552606246891520

As a reasonable suspect in Turkey, 'thief = Fugitive Palace = AKP = Erdogan = Ministers' comes to mind."

 

[Crush716]

“Inside man” like I said he’s a sellout and a crook.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1660658537591078913

 

[Crush716]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1660659517112082432

“Sinan Ogan joined the People's Alliance after accusing Bahceli of siding with HUDAPAR.” What a joke of a guy

 

[Crush716]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/333349468953001985

“Assad and Erdogan both feed on blood... #CanimAnnem
#HatayTürkiyedir”

 

[Barry]

 

[dBSPL]

The Turkish Medical Association (TTB) declared support in favor of "Kılıçdaroğlu".

 

[Bozan]

Oğan announced that he would support RTE in the second round.

According to the rumours in the circles, Azerbaijan President Ilham Aliyev played an active role in this process.

Said this would happen

 

[Bozan]

This is exactly what I was thinking they would do. Why risk when you can have both?

That said, if you are somebody like Ogan who has as his first priorities the fight against PKK and Feto, Organization of Turkish States, defense industry etc it would be really hard to say you support Kilicdaroglu. All other topics like the economy and liberalism that would lead to Kilicdaroglu were categorically less important for him.

This is all completely wrong

Ogan's first priorities are Bahçeli and himself.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1473203803050897414

Ogan has sold his principles for the AKP

 

[godel44]

This is all completely wrong

Ogan's first priorities are Bahçeli and himself.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1473203803050897414

Ogan has sold his principles for the AKP

You are entitled to your wrong opinion but it was obvious from the beginning that Ogan's principles were closer to Erdogan compared to Kilicdaroglu. The nationalist component in that camp is quite content where they are whereas the nationalist component in Kilicdaroglu's camp almost broke away from the alliance very recently. At the end of the day, Ogan had harsh criticism for both camps but chose the one that he thought is the better of the two.

 

[dBSPL]

By the way, everyone targeted Oğan, but also Yavuz Ağıralioğlu is one of those who openly support RTE.

 

[Bogeyman]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1660686676589518849

Ekrem İmamoğlu, who visited Tuzla District Market, was expelled from the market with "PKK out" chants.

 

[Numberone]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1660686676589518849

Ekrem İmamoğlu, who visited Tuzla District Market, was expelled from the market with "PKK out" chants.

'Cehalet'

Turkey is lost

Also the word 'PKK' has lost its' meaning as of recent weeks.

 

[Bogeyman]

'Cehalet'

Turkey is lost

Also the word 'PKK' has lost its' meaning as of recent weeks.

This reaction is very natural for İmamoğlu, who sent greetings to Selahattin Demirtaş.

 

[dBSPL]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1660686676589518849

Ekrem İmamoğlu, who visited Tuzla District Market, was expelled from the market with "PKK out" chants.

I think that the statements made by Salih Muslim yesterday are a provoking factor in this. If the PKK and its branches were silent for 15 days, they would do something, but they are not given the opportunity. Even Kanas Canan has started to take a Turkic stance, nevertheless, every day an objectionable person or an objectionable group makes a statement that negates this effect.

Although the HDP may be the only party that supports KK with all its might without any loss, but that's another story...

What I regret is that sole reason for RTE's failure to finish the election in the first round and Ince and Ogan, who gave very serious messages to the country politically, did not make much noise from the AKP front, while the CHP community lynched them with swearing and even slanders. As like everyone who is not on the CHP's side is a traitor. (This language is actually a language familiar from Akpians.) However, it was the CHP itself that buttoned the first button wrongly in the alliance model and the process that started in 2018 with the campaign of 'one vote from each house'. At this point, the CHP's December 10 group pushed the party to this point, and now they cannot reverse the momentum no matter what they say. An alliance that loses elections in these economic and social problems is the most unsuccessful alliance in the history of the republic.

Despite 20 years of wear and tear, and with the heavy bill of past stupid political mistakes, and even a massive earthquake disaster, RTE increased his votes by 20 per cent in the last 6 months of an election process that it seemed certain to lose. This is not an AKP success.

 

[baklava]

I believe it's more likely that Sinan won't support anyone or would support Erdoğan, rather than backing KK.

He could potentially negotiate a good deal that would see him play a role in government.

Consider this: Sinan was expelled twice from MHP and didn't establish his own party nor join another like IYIP, where he's supposedly good friends with Meral.

It appears he remains loyal to MHP, and the quickest way for him to rejoin, possibly even lead the MHP and potentially be a presidential candidate in 5 years, would be through his support now.

Erdoğan and Bahçeli are expected to step down in 5 years, and Sinan could fill this power vacuum.

But if he chooses to support Kemal, he might find himself in a lose-lose situation for obvious reasons.

As I said, it makes the most sense.

 

[Oublious]

lol

if Ogan supported KK and ther hdp then ther was nothing wrong.