A new message resounds in the Arab world: Get Ankara

[Ryder]

To be be more precise, conflict within the Arab worlds almost always revolve around absolute Monarchies vs Reactionaries to this status quo. This can come in the form of alternative entities that offer ideological and organizational guidance such as Muslim Brotherhood, terrorist organizations, radicals Islamists, democracy and etc. Funny thing is that it doesn't matter how much they struggle, how much opposition they crush or Turkey loses, they will eventually come crumbling down. Its inevitable.

EDIT: I realized this is a pretty old post I am replying to, sowwyyy

Another thing to add the Arab country itself either becomes a secular dictatorship or a islamist dictatorship.

 

[Ryder]

" constitutional monarchy' like the UK means democracy and voice of the people. Arab monarchies on the other hand are feudal regimes where the people has no say in governance.

Not to mention they dont like the balance of power as they want all the power for themselves.

I say this here absolute monarchy is in last death throes. Either they accept it its death or try to reform.

But the Saudis are too arrogant to even accept giving up a few of their powers.

 

[Titanium100]

Not to mention they dont like the balance of power as they want all the power for themselves.

I say this here absolute monarchy is in last death throes. Either they accept it its death or try to reform.

But the Saudis are too arrogant to even accept giving up a few of their powers.

The Monarchies will eventually be toppled by another monarchy taking huge chunk of territories. The House of Saud will eventually be replaced by another local house that will come to the throne approx about 3-4 decades from now and that same house will also take rule over Turkey and beyond lands into huge parts of Europe but all of that will not come about until the world descents into huge turmoil created by a massive natural disaster that will shape the world entirely different and also that new house will become the sole world hegemony

 

[CEZAYIRLI]

The Monarchies will eventually be toppled by another monarchy taking huge chunk of territories. The House of Saud will eventually be replaced by another local house that will come to the throne approx about 3-4 decades from now and that same house will also take rule over Turkey and beyond lands into huge parts of Europe but all of that will not come about until the world descents into huge turmoil created by a natural disaster that will shape the world entirely different and also that new house will become the sole world hegemony

"House of Saud will eventually be replaced by another local house that will come to the throne approx about 3-4 decades from now and that same house will also take rule over Turkey" : You don't make any sense. Are you Saudi by any chance ?

 

[Titanium100]

"House of Saud will eventually be replaced by another local house that will come to the throne approx about 3-4 decades from now and that same house will also take rule over Turkey" : You don't make any sense. Are you Saudi by any chance ?

I am not Saudi.. Alot of people think the Legacy of Muahmmed is over but there is one golden age left to go which will come to be even tho it has not arrived it has occured because the pen is dry which means it will come about without a doubt.. I am talking about a nearly 150 years of Islamic world hegemony sequel on the way which will become the 3rd golden age and final

 

[Anmdt]

The House of Saud will eventually be replaced by another local house that will come to the throne approx about 3-4 decades from now and that same house will also take rule over Turkey and beyond lands into huge parts of Europe

And we will all watch 6 days war again, remastered in 8K.

 

[TR_123456]

The Monarchies will eventually be toppled by another monarchy taking huge chunk of territories. The House of Saud will eventually be replaced by another local house that will come to the throne approx about 3-4 decades from now and that same house will also take rule over Turkey and beyond lands into huge parts of Europe but all of that will not come about until the world descents into huge turmoil created by a massive natural disaster that will shape the world entirely different and also that new house will become the sole world hegemony

Is this a prophecy?

 

[CEZAYIRLI]

I am not Saudi.. Alot of people think the Legacy of Muahmmed is over but there is one golden age left to go which will come to be even tho it has not arrived it has occured because the pen is dry which means it will come about without a doubt.. I am talking about a nearly 150 years of Islamic world hegemony sequel on the way

Pure superstition from your part. the legacy of Prophet Muhammad never thrived in KSA.

 

[Titanium100]

Is this a prophecy?

Istanbul will fall without a fight.. Just with takbeer they will join the ranks themselves by their own will...

That leader will not have arab support but universal support.. He will be much more strong militarily because he will have a universal backing hence why he will be formidble. The first casuality will be the saudis themselves. They have logistical powers meaning they will be able to defeat a huge coalition probably NATO in sham where chemical weapons is used on both sides.. The prophet referred that war as the biggest war of all times somehow and surprisingly he will come out victorious leading to his world hegemony status that man has been propheciesed since the beginning..

 

[Titanium100]

You're probably confused. You're six centuries behind. There was actually a fall on May 29, 1463, but that was when the city was named Constantinople, not Istanbul. lol

There will be another fall all tho without violence.. Which means the people in Istanbul themselves are muslims so they will accept him without a fight and just takbeer the city will fall they will just lay down their arms.. The turks will choice their passion over patriotism which is Islam... But the Saudis will not do the same hence why he will destroy them but not the turks..

But all in all nobdoy will be able to stop him as destiny is on his side and they want to ethblish him as the new world hegemony nobody on earth will be able to undo him militarily

 

[CEZAYIRLI]

There will be another fall all tho without violence.. Which means the people in Istanbul themselves are muslims so they will accept him without a fight and just takbeer the city will fall they will just lay down their arms

Are we now in a Defense Forum or in a Religious Forum ? We all here reveal our nationalities, except you. Is there a reason for that ?

 

[Titanium100]

Are we now in a Defense Forum or in a Religious Forum ? We all here reveal our nationalities, except you. Is there a reason for that ?

They operate on a timeline and a clock.. They will remain behind on earth for as long as the heavens desire.. The first 2 golden ages came and went but the final and 3rd will also come and go.. Without disruption... Not a single person believes it or can predict a Caliphate will emerge and take world hegemony because they are not even on the political map today or players but the world is full of surprises.. The idea itself is not even born nor people linked to it are born yet this is how much they are not on the map... The first two golden ages were predicted before they came about and they certainly did come about and the same with the 3rd golden age which will be the last one

 

[BordoEnes]

" constitutional monarchy' like the UK means democracy and voice of the people. Arab monarchies on the other hand are feudal regimes where the people has no say in governance.

Pretty much. They have no actual authority or power, and in many cases they very much prefer it that way such as in Spain where actively embraced and advocated for democracy and liberalization it after Franco. The idea that an Arab monarchy would do this is absolutely laughable. Even the best case scenario, such as Jordan they still hold vast, almost absolute power. Anyone who thinks these will last is delusional, Turkey or not, Muslim Brotherhood or not.

 

[BordoEnes]

Another thing to add the Arab country itself either becomes a secular dictatorship or a islamist dictatorship.

The funny thing is that in most of these cases they are STILL just monarchies, such as in Syria with Assad or Azerbaijan with Aliyev. The battle is between people who wants democracy and people who wants to establish a dynasty one way or another, which is basically a monarchy in all but name.

 

[Ryder]

The funny thing is that in most of these cases they are STILL just monarchies, such as in Syria with Assad or Azerbaijan with Aliyev. The battle is between people who wants democracy and people who wants to establish a dynasty one way or another, which is basically a monarchy in all but name.

Good point that always came to my mind should these dictatorships be considered as monarchies in name, best example is North Korea that is literally a dynasty itself.

The succession itself too from father to son.

I feel like Turkey needs to have terms for the president and vice president. Honestly they should not be in office forever. I feel like Erdogan has to retire along with Bahceli and Kilictaroglu. Erdogan has been president along with prime minister for decades. It feels like his going to rule forever.

Seriously the same can be said for Putin too.

 

[CEZAYIRLI]

The funny thing is that in most of these cases they are STILL just monarchies, such as in Syria with Assad or Azerbaijan with Aliyev. The battle is between people who wants democracy and people who wants to establish a dynasty one way or another, which is basically a monarchy in all but name.

Here's another one that you might not know. Morocco has a king, who is also a Military General and a Head of State, as well as "Commander of the Believers". This guy rules over his subjects in life as well as in death.

 

[Ryder]

Here's another one that you might not know. Morocco has a king, who is also a Military General and a Head of State, as well as "Commander of the Believers". This guy rules over his subjects in life as well as in death.

Amir al Mumineen is a title reserve to the Caliphs of the Rashidun Caliphate.

A lot of Muslim kings and Caliphs used it as a title to claim religious legitmacy.

 

[CEZAYIRLI]

Amir al Mumineen is a title reserve to the Caliphs of the Rashidun Caliphate.

A lot of Muslim kings and Caliphs used it as a title to claim religious legitmacy.

Right. Just after the Rashidun Caliphate, dynasties such as the Umayyads and others became merely kingdoms inheriting power from father to son.

 

[CEZAYIRLI]

Turkey's GDP around 740 billion U.S. dollars and Turkey ranking 54th among 189 countries in the 2020 Human Development Report, cemented its place in the “very high human development” level. Countries in the MENA region who thrive toward Democracy and economic growth, seek Turkey as an ideal investor and business partner. Conversely, Gulf State investment money in North Africa for example is like a curse, in addition to them being autocratic dictatorships, they invest in your country then try to destroy it militarily or otherwise like the UAE has been doing in Libya and Tunisia in recent years.