TR Aftermath of the earthquakes in Turkey's South-east

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Fcking hell humans sure do love doing propaganda.

How about they go and save some lives.

So petty and pathetic and disgraceful how they need the glory and the cameras.
 

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Zoning amnesty is one of the practices developed to prevent illegal and unplanned construction in our country. Since 1984, it has come into force many times. Basically, the aim is to organize the necessary settlement after the deposit of the document amounts and to issue the appropriate title deed document.

At least 25% of the land plots in Istanbul are based on title deeds distributed as a result of squatting, but many other buildings do not comply with the municipal zoning regulations and the project was corrected later. This does not mean that every building benefiting from this zoning amnesty is in violation of the earthquake regulations. In fact, this is technically very difficult. The projects are approved by the municipality one by one. I cannot say it is impossible because we know what can happen in municipal offices. However, it is necessary to say that not only the buildings benefiting from the zoning amnesty, but also the buildings built in accordance with the project can carry the same possibility to the same extent. When you apply to the municipality and your building is not earthquake resistant, the electricity and water of that building is cut off within 3 months by law. What should be feared here are the buildings that do not ask the municipality for a report on earthquake resistance.

The apartment I am currently living in is one of the houses that have been regulated within the scope of the last zoning amnesty regulation. The apartment complies with all of the earthquake regulations in question and the standard of concrete used is exceptionally above the lower limit written in the relevant legislation. The building is built on a raft foundation and has bored piles. However, we had a problem with the municipality regarding the condominium easement.

When the municipality's water and sewerage works shifted the main line by 1 meter outside the zoning plan in the region, the whole street was taken to court. We won this court case. The big problem was that the problem that caused us to be in court with the contractor was that he added the living room balconies to the living room in order to increase the net usage area on the middle floors, which was not in accordance with the project. In addition, he arranged his own apartments in violation of the project in such a way that the usage area was 5-10 meters larger than the other apartments. The contractor had sold all his apartments and rejected the cost of this arrangement. The court case dragged on for years. We, the landowners, could not get the condominium easement due to this problem we had with the contractor. The deeds were not properly arranged. With the zoning amnesty law, a new project was drawn and approved by the municipality.

In short, the Zoning amnesty Regulation is a 'Turkish type' business model that has been traditional for about 40 years as a way to regulate such project violations and in the meantime create a serious input for the municipalities and the treasury. It is not appropriate, it is not right, but it was deemed more costly by the authorities to demolish or partially demolish the structures in question because the attic is 30 centimeters high or the net usage area is 5 square meters larger than the project. In the zoning amnesty, on the other hand, tax and fee evasions are collected and you gain votes. I am not arguing that it is right, but this is the situation in our country.

This state distributed title deeds to people who squatted on treasury lands. On lands that were closed to construction or had very limited building permits, constructions were built in violation of the regulations. Municipal officers were bribed like crazy and these constructions were condoned. Who remembers the 1996 Habitat Istanbul conference? One of the main problems throughout Istanbul is the lack of urban planning, which has now become a world trademark. More than 10 suburbs in Istanbul have been built completely illegally and the infrastructure has been built later. I am talking about districts with a population exceeding 1 million today. The legal proof of ownership is the title deed. Although the called mukhtar deed is not valid for cadastral areas, many title deeds have been distributed in this way. Do you remember the 2B law? This included bringing these structures into compliance with the law. In modern cities, zoning is planned first and then infrastructure is built. In Istanbul, and Izmir, and in the expansion areas of all other metropolis these are the second and third steps. Zoning amnesty is perhaps the smallest part of all these problems.
 
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Chinese and Japanese always do promotions like this…

Japanese even sent thousands of paper birds to Turkiye then speaking on domestic TV every day that how powerful is the Japanese .I never see Japanese team help any victim in TV just the introduction of japanese advanced technology .
The quality of Korean media isn‘t any better 😅 … but the Chinese CCP-controlled media mouthpieces are the worst mix of propaganda, twisted half-truths, blatant lies and deflections.

Japanese rescue team at work in Turkey:
 

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A few notes;

The official numbers are only number of bodies extracted from the rumbles.

It doesn't include the bodies which were extracted by individual efforts and buried by individual efforts. There could be another dozen thousand buried with no death certificate.

The numbers may as well rise up to 200K but for now it seems lesslikely. 1. There is no time to extract bodies as they rot 2. Government rushes to clean the ground ASAP to initiate reconstruction program (instructed by Erdogan). The ruins will be removed along by bodies under them and they will be written as 'missing' just to play with numbers. "Our death toll is 50K" without even mentioning the missing 150K.

There is a great dissappointment on TAF and MinDef in regards of government and president. Some bodies of state refuses to coordinate with TAF.

AFAD still fails as day 10 passes. Yesterday it hasn't gone unnoticed when a kid demanded 'heater' silently, he 'promised' it will be delivered, none delivered so far today.

No comments so far.
 

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The volunteers are needed more than ever, a portion of volunteers arriving last week was merely to there to fill their CV and reach their families in the surrounding but unaffected cities.
 

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Havildar Rahul Chaudhary, who was preparing to welcome his child to the world, was torn between his duty towards his country and family. His passport was already stamped.


By Gaurav C Sawant: Havildar Rahul Chaudhary was called in to be a part of the 99-member team India was sending to Turkey and Syria to help with relief and rescue work after a massive 7.8 magnitude earthquake struck.

“I went straight to my seniors and told them about my wife’s cesarean surgery scheduled for February 8. He asked me to speak with my wife and when I told her, she asked me to go with my team. She told me I should serve my country first,” Chaudhary told India Today TV.

“I quickly packed my bags and left to join my team,” he said.

As he boarded the flight, he got to know that his wife had been wheeled into the operation theatre. As soon as he landed, he got news about his newborn son. His colleagues and friends at the army hospital want him to name his child 'Turki Chaudhary'.

Another Army personnel, Sipahi Kamlesh Kumar Chauhan from Gorakhpur in UP, became father to a son after landing in Turkey.

The death toll from the earthquake that struck Turkey and Syria on February 6 has crossed 34,000. Several countries in the world have sent in teams to help the search and rescue operations in Turkey and Syria, which have been reduced to rubble after a series of earthquakes. India too sent in troops under ‘Operation Dost’.
 

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A few notes;

The official numbers are only number of bodies extracted from the rumbles.

It doesn't include the bodies which were extracted by individual efforts and buried by individual efforts. There could be another dozen thousand buried with no death certificate.

The numbers may as well rise up to 200K but for now it seems lesslikely. 1. There is no time to extract bodies as they rot 2. Government rushes to clean the ground ASAP to initiate reconstruction program (instructed by Erdogan). The ruins will be removed along by bodies under them and they will be written as 'missing' just to play with numbers. "Our death toll is 50K" without even mentioning the missing 150K.

There is a great dissappointment on TAF and MinDef in regards of government and president. Some bodies of state refuses to coordinate with TAF.

AFAD still fails as day 10 passes. Yesterday it hasn't gone unnoticed when a kid demanded 'heater' silently, he 'promised' it will be delivered, none delivered so far today.

No comments so far.

You are really talking nonsense here.

1. Even if the relatives bury the corpse, they still need to obtain a death certificate afterwards aka inform the state about the demise of its citizen.

2. If the government wanted to tamper with the figures, they wouldn't have published the number of missing or injured people in the first place. Second of all, too many people have suffered in one way or another from this earthquake. You cannot just cover it up. This is a natural disaster of enormous proportions.

3. As a person whose relative couldn't be found under the rubble even though they looked through the debris several times, let me tell you one thing: Nobody starts with the cleanup as long as rescuers or former residents are convinced that bodies are entombed under the rubble.

In my case, the police took DNA samples from the missing person's close relatives to run it through the database.

In addition, a human body does not rot in 10 days especially not if the weather conditions are cold.

Last but not least: AFAD is a shitty organization because one kid couldn't get a heater asap?! THOUSANDS have been pulled out of the rubble alive and survived but this is what you base your opinion on?
 

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You are really talking nonsense here.

1. Even if the relatives bury the corpse, they still need to obtain a death certificate afterwards aka inform the state about the demise of its citizen.

2. If the government wanted to tamper with the figures, they wouldn't have published the number of missing or injured people in the first place. Second of all, too many people have suffered in one way or another from this earthquake. You cannot just cover it up. This is a natural disaster of enormous proportions.

3. As a person whose relative couldn't be found under the rubble even though they looked through the debris several times, let me tell you one thing: Nobody starts with the cleanup as long as rescuers or former residents are convinced that bodies are entombed under the rubble.

In my case, the police took DNA samples from the missing person's close relatives to run it through the database.

In addition, a human body does not rot in 10 days especially not if the weather conditions are cold.

Last but not least: AFAD is a shitty organization because one kid couldn't get a heater asap?! THOUSANDS have been pulled out of the rubble alive and survived but this is what you base your opinion on?
Lets not sugarcoat it that much

I know that the extent of the earthquake is unprecedented and no one in the current AFAD administration have an experience in preparing against 2 consecutive 7.8 magnitude earthquakes and that many of the affected cities had its airports and roads damaged and unusable but lets admit that AFAD does bear some of the responsibility. Therefore, I do agree that many who states bullshit propaganda against AFAD just to incite hatred and gain votes but....

Even Erdogan himself admitted that AFAD initial response to the earthquake was subpar and that way more ppl could have been saved; especially in the first 2 days of the event.
 

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I don’t really like it to be honest. Why the State doesn’t deploy it’s own soldiers ? It’s not like we are in a shortage of military manpower or something. What is happening ?

Turkish government has always been paranoid of the military 😆

Struggle of power between two institutions.
 

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