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In this case, the range of the Shield target tracking radar is how many hundred km? Can we say 100 km for the range of the firing control radar?
Platform has
-MAR, at worst we can assume 70 km range as given in catalog (however similar MAR-D has 100, so it can be a matter of power demand)
-AKR (Aselsan FCR) has 30-35 km range,
but lines were drawn at 50 and 100 for each. Could be "guide" lines as well.
 

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I hope we don't make the whole project garbage by disclosing this confidential information. You know, according to some claims, many national projects collapsed because of us. SSB and interpol are calling us with red notice.

🙂 Joke aside, Nobody forgot How some guys were typing most pessimist comments about ongoing projects and making fun with defence projects and Turkish engineering capabilities in past. Old members can remember these a few famous guys. They were even making fun with renders or concept designs of the projects.

Now, These same gangs are trying to judge this forum and members' patriotism and accusing us to harm defence projects (?) because of posting an image shared by AnadoluAjansı. They like behaving as if they know something that others don't know. These tactics used to make a premium in past, but now nobody cares. These bad-minded guys will be responded in same way.

They were acting like sole source of information and accusing anybody who were talking truths or expressing ideas about projects as "spreading disinformation" in past. Today, they lost being monopoly so they are angry and accusing other communities who speak about our great projects as "traitors, FETOcu" because I think they miss good old days. It was the days that they were silencing anybody who was speaking opposite or reacting to their most pessimist cheeky comments. I stopped counting the number of their mistakes/misinformations/disinformations that other members corrected, and/or time proved them wrong many times. I stopped counting How many times Turkish engineers proved them wrong by achieving success in many projects that they made fun, yet they don't give up their old arrogancy.

At present, we created a healthy discussion environment for all members and Turkish members are fed by a large number of reliable and quality information sources inside a productive discussion environment and nobody needs their condescending comments here so nobody gives a penny them in these platforms anymore. I think this is the reason of their anger or their perception operation for this fast growing forum. Let them vomit the sins. We know who they are and what is in their minds. Do not mind their efforts to be in the photo frame now for projects where they had spread negative perceptions in the past and told about the impossible. We know their fabric. They can't even be the last person who can judge our patriotism.
 

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Noone forgot How some guys were typing most possible pessimist comments about ongoing projects and making fun with defence projects and Turkish engineering capabilities in past. Old members can remember these a few famous guys. They were even making fun with renders or concept designs of the projects.

Now, These same gangs are trying to judge this forum and members' patriotism and accusing us to harm defence projects (?) because of posting an image shared by AnadoluAjansı. They like behaving as if they know something that others don't know. These tactics used to make a premium in past, but now nobody cares. These bad-minded guys will be responded in same way.

They were acting like sole source of information and accusing anybody who were talking truths or expressing ideas about projects as "spreading disinformation" in past. Today, they lost being monopoly so they are angry and accusing other communities who speak about our great projects as "traitors, FETOcu" because I think they miss good old days. It was the days when they were silencing anybody who was speaking opposite or reacting to their most pessimist comments. I stop counting the number of their mistakes/misinformations that other members corrected about many projects, and/or time proved them wrong many times, yet He doesn't give up his old arrogancy.

At present, Turkish members are fed with multiple reliable and quality information sources and noone needs their condescending comments here so noone gives a penny to their ideas in their blogs/forums anymore. I think this is the reason of their anger or perception for this fast growing forum. Let them beg media bosses to find a chair in live broadcasts now.
I think we should separate those things:

- military or company leaking info
- some forum member using this info
- some forum member leaking info

1 and 3 is bad.

For example, why we need to see this in our first WVR test:

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It’s partially blurred but the rest still tells so many things. If that info is not important, why blur the rest?
 

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Noone forgot How some guys were typing most possible pessimist comments about ongoing projects and making fun with defence projects and Turkish engineering capabilities in past. Old members can remember these a few famous guys. They were even making fun with renders or concept designs of the projects.

Now, These same gangs are trying to judge this forum and members' patriotism and accusing us to harm defence projects (?) because of posting an image shared by AnadoluAjansı. They like behaving as if they know something that others don't know. These tactics used to make a premium in past, but now nobody cares. These bad-minded guys will be responded in same way.

They were acting like sole source of information and accusing anybody who were talking truths or expressing ideas about projects as "spreading disinformation" in past. Today, they lost being monopoly so they are angry and accusing other communities who speak about our great projects as "traitors, FETOcu" because I think they miss good old days. It was the days when they were silencing anybody who was speaking opposite or reacting to their most pessimist comments. I stop counting the number of their mistakes/misinformations that other members corrected about many projects, and/or time proved them wrong many times, yet He doesn't give up his old arrogancy.

At present, Turkish members are fed with multiple reliable and quality information sources and noone needs their condescending comments here so noone gives a penny to their ideas in their blogs/forums anymore. I think this is the reason of their anger or perception for this fast growing forum. Let them beg media bosses to find a chair in live broadcasts now.

I can give some examples like Turkish F35 fanboys from twitter like 2.ordu.

I seen him mock the Turkish defence industry.

It seems some want these projects to fail just so they can prove a point look what we cant do it.

I seriously hate these people. Just so they cant get their favourite toys they want a native industry to die off due to their self esteem problems.

Self defeatism is a mental problem. Always keep away from these people.
 
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I think we should separate those things:

- military or company leaking info
- some forum member using this info
- some forum member leaking info

1 and 3 is bad.

For example, why we need to see this in our first WVR test:

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It’s partially blurred but the rest still tells so many things. If that info is not important, why blur the rest?
They blur all the rest because if they only blurred the specific thing that's a secret, it would reveal which one is the secret.
 

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He has used an image from our forum and hasn't given any credit, thanks anyway :)
@Test7 I don't know how to stamp watermarks, is that option available while uploading pictures? Or it should be done manually via photo editors?
Edit: I have added those manually
 
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They blur all the rest because if they only blurred the specific thing that's a secret, it would reveal which one is the secret.
Who are they?

A pilot
An engineer
An intelligence officer

The team releasing the footage should contain all.
They should not race to release the footage on the same day.

From the HUD footage I can confirm some other estimates and have an idea about the missile, target altitude difference, aircraft speed and flight regime. The question is, as a civilian why I need to know this.


Remember, some guy released high quality footage of our newest submarine taken by a drone.. once they forgot to blur TB2 footage from Syria for 1 second, and at another time TSK video was not blurred but Roketsan’s was ( or vice versa)
 

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He has used an image from our forum and hasn't given any credit, thanks anyway :)
To be fair who knows who already shared those pictures god knows on how many sites and forums. 😂
Waterstamps for the forum would be a good idea maybe with the username of the person who made it. So people have to actually give credit when they share it on other sites or twitter.


Here the link for those interested in reading the flood he made.

 

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Well i made the pictures, just didn't have time to add a watermark there. Going to update now.
I know you made them just saying who knows how many people have already spread it on their own forums and boards as their own work without crediting you and others they have taken work from. :)

Watermark is always a good idea.
 

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He has used an image from our forum and hasn't given any credit, thanks anyway :)
@Test7 I don't know how to stamp watermarks, is that option available while uploading pictures? Or it should be done manually via photo editors?
Edit: I have added those manually
His name is not Kublai Khan, he's Ibrahim Sünnetçi. I shared it privately when we were talking about it among ourselves. He took it and used it. I'm just saying this to clarify the situation.
 
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Platform has
-MAR, at worst we can assume 70 km range as given in catalog (however similar MAR-D has 100, so it can be a matter of power demand)
-AKR (Aselsan FCR) has 30-35 km range,
but lines were drawn at 50 and 100 for each. Could be "guide" lines as well.
Sorry ,but the Hisar A system doesn't have fire control radar (AKR)!

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System Just consists of MAR search radar.
AKR belongs to Korkut.
 
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I didn't figure it out, then the tracking range is possibly for the E/O.
I don't think the red circle indicates tracking range of Electro-optical.
Could it be maximum instrumental range of another missile?:p

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Credit to @Cypro


Could the red circle be pre-firing area of engagement? System perceives the object as a target if it trespasses the red circle??
 
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If you notice, you can see how first phase of the rocket motor is absolutely clean, minimal smoke trail. But when the NOS kicks in for the second phase of the rocket motor, it's a dirty little smokey missile! :)

Engineered to perfection well done to all those who contributed to developing such a air defence system. Looking forward to more to come!
 

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He has used an image from our forum and hasn't given any credit, thanks anyway :)
@Test7 I don't know how to stamp watermarks, is that option available while uploading pictures? Or it should be done manually via photo editors?
Edit: I have added those manually

We have installed a plugin that automatically adds watermarks to every photo posted on the forum, but it has been removed because it automatically adds watermarks to someone else's photos. The best method is to add manually
 

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I don't think the red circle indicates tracking range of Electro-optical.
Could it be maximum instrumental range of another missile?:p

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Credit to @Cypro


Could the red circle be pre-firing area of engagement? System perceives the object as a target if it trespasses the red circle??
Compare with Hisar-O launch, yellow 100km and 50km circle was there too. The blue is different for Hisar-O, only available at some sectors, perhaps it’s adjustable (i.e. User defined zone)...
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Not be sure about İbrahim Sünnetçi who had to close his official twitter account because he did something not good.
PS: He leaked the photo of Anka-I and classified information on the soft defence system performance against German heavy weight torpedo.
@Test7 @Bogeyman
 
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