TR Air Defence Programs

[Hexciter]

Add a huge booster to siper missile to reach space, then with necessary guidance systems it can reach to observation satellites operation altitude to shoot them down.

Siper designed to be work within lower atmosphere. Hitting in the upper atmosphere and space are different animals. Don’t mix apples with oranges.

 

[Huelague]

Add a huge booster to siper missile to reach space, then with necessary guidance systems it can reach to observation satellites operation altitude to shoot them down.

Any idea with how much speed satellites fly?

 

[Yasar_TR]

Any idea with how much speed satellites fly?

Depends on how high the orbit is.

That translates to :
around 28000km/hour at a 200km high orbit.
around 25000km/hour at 2000km high orbit.
around 11000km/hour at 36000km high orbit (geosynchronous)

 

[Fighter_35]

Any idea with how much speed satellites fly?

Siper designed to be work within lower atmosphere. Hitting in the upper atmosphere and space are different animals. Don’t mix apples with oranges.

So what?? You will add some thrust control system , when you reach the space, increase speed is easy.
You will need to bring siper missile with thrust vector control or hit to kill systems directional change to a suitable altitude by another booster ,not a small one but a booster like space lunch systems slide boosters.

Even India has some capability, why do you think it is not achievable after you have technology to produce long range air defense systems.

 

[Fighter_35]

Any idea with how much speed satellites fly?

I have more info than you about this issues. So don't make it hard for your self to elaborate.
Lower altitude ones have much speeds than upper altitude ones to keep their positions . When you reach an altitude in space, it means you also have that speed!! And hitting something in space if it is in lower altitude is hard to upper layer ones in terms of technology!!
You can not lunch your anti satellite missiles for lower altitude satellites any time. You can lunch only in specific times in a day for lower altitude ones.

 

[Yasar_TR]

You are dismissing the possibility of a lesser rocket than an ICBM being able to hit a satellite.
ICBM rockets are made to go to a distance as well as to a height. So the flight path is longer than that of a rocket that needs to go to a height but not a distance. If the satellite killer rocket meets the satellite without having to chase it a smaller rocket should be able to hit a satellite too.

Actually No. But you are correct about the lesser missiles. For low orbit and for many LEO satellites at different altitudes, a smaller sized missile could be used as a satellite killer. SM3 with a MK41 VLS launch capability is a good example of this.
ASAT missiles with various ranges and altitude levels like the ASM-135 are smaller than the big ICBMs, and can do the job. Even a modified MRBM can be used to hit these low orbit satellites travelling at relatively high speeds, as you rightly pointed out that there is no time limit to launch as reaction to an incoming threat of a ballistic missile. You can wait until the satellite is in range of your missile.
I was replying to your specific question about ICBMs.

 

[Huelague]

I have more info than you about this issues. So don't make it hard for your self to elaborate.
Lower altitude ones have much speeds than upper altitude ones to keep their positions . When you reach an altitude in space, it means you also have that speed!! And hitting something in space if it is in lower altitude is hard to upper layer ones in terms of technology!!
You can not lunch your anti satellite missiles for lower altitude satellites any time. You can lunch only in specific times in a day for lower altitude ones.

I have a PhD in Physics from LMU Munich. You?

 

[Ecderha]

I have a PhD in Physics from LMU Munich. You?

IT is like "trust me bro"

We have here specific expresion about dump people which are looking for "Attantion sort of they want to be on spot lights"

It is like this
" I have 3 ferraris car really rare and expnsive, but I can NOT show them to you because all of them not here in the City where I am at moment, they are at my villige where I actually came ".

It is pathetic excuse of dumb persons trying to show things which they actuall are not.
This kind of people Try to Yell and They Claim to KNOW ALL sort of expert for any topic out there

 

[Huelague]

Sorry! But evidence to what?
@Huelague had a claim that we could get anti satellite capability through partnership with Samp-T.

Never mentioned Samp-t in this case.

@Zafer
For a satellite on 300km altitude, they fly with 28.000km/h. Really hard to hit. There are 2 methods to hit such satellites.

 

[Huelague]

Wow! Talking about flying high!!
Aster 30 Block 2BMD is still being developed, has maximum altitude of 20km.
Low orbit satellites are at an altitude between 250km and 2000km. Geo-synchronous satellites are at 36000km.
Missiles capable of hitting even the Low orbit ones, will have to have ICBM class rocket engines.

Why not? Think big

 

[Zafer]

Never mentioned Samp-t in this case.

@Zafer
For a satellite on 300km altitude, they fly with 28.000km/h. Really hard to hit. There are methods to hit such satellites.

They do but they pass through the same spot 16 times a day and you can arrange your timing based on this information.

 

[Huelague]

They do but they pass through the same spot 16 times a day and you can arrange your timing based on this information.

By crossing the orbit. Very good. But as @Yasar and myself agreed on, we think big and dont prefer such cheap method

 

[Huelague]

IT is like "trust me bro"

We have here specific expresion about dump people which are looking for "Attantion sort of they want to be on spot lights"

It is like this
" I have 3 ferraris car really rare and expnsive, but I can NOT show them to you because all of them not here in the City where I am at moment, they are at my villige where I actually came ".

It is pathetic excuse of dumb persons trying to show things which they actuall are not.
This kind of people Try to Yell and They Claim to KNOW ALL sort of expert for any topic out there

So true. But I dont have a Ferrari, just a bicycle.

 

[Zafer]

By crossing the orbit. Very good. But as @Yasar and myself agreed on, we think big and dont prefer such cheap method

You also need to invest big money on a number of ICBM size rockets or better use reusable first stage.
Or try lasers from high flying jets.

 

[Hexciter]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1507698626931441671

 

[Anmdt]

Siper designed to be work within lower atmosphere. Hitting in the upper atmosphere and space are different animals. Don’t mix apples with oranges.

*Siper Block 1 and 2, the Block 2 forces the limits a bit more.
In updated naming, Block 3 will have nicer capabilities.

 

[Yasar_TR]

Never mentioned Samp-t in this case.

True. You haven’t. My bad. Two different, but on same topic, conversations got mixed up.

If the grapevine rumours regarding Turkish space rocket developments are correct, we may have a potential missile in hand already, that can be of ASAT class.
Of course having a potential missile and the real McCoy are two different stories.

 

[kenny]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1507755752999559170

English

 

[Zafer]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1507755752999559170

English

This kind of cooperation should not be allowed to block the way of totally indigenous development.

 

[Yasar_TR]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1507755752999559170

English

Are you asking for English translation?
It says that Foreign Minister Cavusoglu has stated that after our President’s meeting with his French and Italian counterparts, manufacturing of Samp-T systems in Turkey is being considered more seriously.