TR Air Defence Programs

[No Name]

Yeah I know him most of the time he just lies not a good source but block 3 is in development and I think it’s supposed to enter into service in 2028 with an official range of 180+ but given the fact that it’s going to be an anti ballistic missile like thaad or sm3 it’s range should be greater than the given number
You want good sources
Defence Türk , Savunmasanayist , kaner kurt and tolga Özbek

Does Turkey even have the technology to make the Siper Block 3 travel at hypersonic speeds, like the SM3 and THAAD?

Both of those air defence systems travel at Mach 8 or higher. That said, THAAD appears to have the same range as the Siper Block 3 (180+ km), as it is stated to be approximately 200 km.

 

[TheInsider]

Siper Block 3 is a fully funded official project, but it is forbidden to share anything about it. Siper block 2 will be shown at IDEF, and more info will be released. It is too early for block 3.

 

[boredaf]

7:20min (Siper block 3)

Again with this clown and his stick... Mods, I'm begging you, please ban sharing of this lunatic, he just spouts misinformation and lies.

 

[Strong AI]

Does Turkey even have the technology to make the Siper Block 3 travel at hypersonic speeds, like the SM3 and THAAD?

Both of those air defence systems travel at Mach 8 or higher. That said, THAAD appears to have the same range as the Siper Block 3 (180+ km), as it is stated to be approximately 200 km.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1930698954964115523

In the test conducted with the two-stage hybrid rocket system developed by DeltaV, an altitude of 200+ km was reached, breaking the altitude record reached with hybrid rocket engines.

Many challenging targets were successfully achieved within the scope of the test.

This success is a pioneering development not only for our country but also on a global scale in terms of hybrid rocket technologies. This system, which is of critical importance for space applications, will pave the way for much more advanced missions in the future in line with our National Space Program goals.

It is indeed EKV and it is nothing new. One has to produce an EKV to develop an MKV. Tubitak SAGE and Roketsan have been developing subsystems and researching base technologies for years. Exoatmospheric interception capability will be introduced after 2028.

So to intercept any hypersonic missile travelling in exo atmosphere before it releases it’s MIRV load, the kinematics learnt from Delta-V launches will help develop a missile system like Siper-3 .

Siper3 will fill a void in the current layered missile defence system. So if Delta-V is to help achieve a competent Siper3, all the merrier.

 

[UkroTurk]

„S-400 system helped this development with reports of ToT [local production] of 40N6E & 48N6E missiles.“

I don’t think this can be true.

What could we have learned from 40N6E? ?? Adding more rocket fuel, making bigger rocket gives more range???waowwww, something we didn't know

 

[Samba]

What could we have learned from 40N6E? ?? Adding more rocket fuel, making bigger rocket gives more range???waowwww, something we didn't know

It may be an excuse to leave s400 for good in order to return back to f35 deal.

 

[Khagan1923]

 

[Strong AI]

 

[Sanchez]

Oh boy. Siper B2 trailer, pulled by a Mercedes Zetros 6x6.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1946906376967475519

 

[TheInsider]

Oh boy. Siper B2 trailer, pulled by a Mercedes Zetros 6x6.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1946906376967475519

This looks like block 1. Block 1 uses a semi trailer while block 2 uses a truck.

https://www.roketsan.com.tr/uploads/docs/kataloglar/TR/2024/1726595695_siper.pdf

 

[Strong AI]

This looks like block 1. Block 1 uses a semi trailer while block 2 uses a truck.

https://www.roketsan.com.tr/uploads/docs/kataloglar/TR/2024/1726595695_siper.pdf

On the canister is literally written Siper Ürün-2 (Block 2) in the video.

 

[TheInsider]

On the canister is literally written Siper Ürün-2 (Block 2) in the video.

View attachment 76496

Then, Siper block 2 will also have semi-trailer vehicles.

 

[BalkanTurk90]

This looks like block 1. Block 1 uses a semi trailer while block 2 uses a truck.

https://www.roketsan.com.tr/uploads/docs/kataloglar/TR/2024/1726595695_siper.pdf

yes i aslo think its siper 1 , siper 2 canisters should longer and wider

 

[Strong AI]

yes i aslo think its siper 1 , siper 2 canisters should longer and wider

Bro...

On the canister is literally written Siper Ürün-2 (Block 2) in the video.

View attachment 76496

Then, Siper block 2 will also have semi-trailer vehicles.

 

[BalkanTurk90]

Then, Siper block 2 will also have semi-trailer vehicles.

Siper 1 and 2 Share same canisters size , 6.45 meter long canister
So it can be both siper 1 or 2 .
But siper 2 dont have yet booster while siper 1 habe booster same as Atmacas one so Siper 2 without booster can reach easy 150km but if they mount a booster than they shoult increase length of canisters .
Perhaps to 7 meter .
- They made a mistake changing names of missiles and categorizing their range .
Should be
-HISAR A ( 0- 30 KM)
-HISAR O ( 30 - 70 )
- HISAR U (100 - 120)
-SIPER 1 ( 150-200 KM)
-SIPER 2 ( 200 - 300 KM)
;but they categorise the range like this
hisar a (20km)
hisar o (35km)
hisar rf ( 45 km)
Siper (100km)

 

[Kaan Azman]

Vehicle argument is kinda pointless, as the launchers are common for both. You can use either one of 8x8 or trailer and I even recall ASELSAN presented it that way.

 

[TheInsider]

Block 2 is longer than Block 1( 6.3m vs 5.4m) and Block 2 has a bigger diameter compared to Block 1 (420mm vs 370mm), so I thought they use different-sized launchers, but it seems like they both use the same launcher.

 

[Kaan Azman]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1947762870013309345

New Burç is the way it should be, totally better than the IDEF23 version

 

[boredaf]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1947762870013309345

New Burç is the way it should be, totally better than the IDEF23 version

Yeah, this is much, much better. Roketsan is really going all in with Venom LR and I love it. Hopefully we'll see it on even more systems.

 

[Strong AI]

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Interview with MKE about TOLGA layered drone defence system. Here is the interesting part. When he talks about the rotary cannon, at like 3:07 min he tells that it creates a cloud consisting of particles. Can MKE produce 12.7 mm airburst rounds?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1948328418077982997