TR Air Defence Programs

[Turko]

Can someone explain why we have 2 long distance air defence systems being developed? Namely, Hisar-U and Siper.
Hisar-U , as far as I understand is the longer range version of Hisar A, O, A+, O+. Basically designed to stop air breathing threats at a distance of 90-120km range and 20+km altitude. It will employ a dual pulse engine as it’s smaller brothers.
Siper on the other hand will be a missile that will be operating at a higher altitude. Probably 30+ km . Have a similar range , around 120km. But still have a dual pulse engine . Specifically designed for anti ballistic missiles duty and also for air breathing threats.
Why don’t we take the same route as the Stamp systems? Aster 30 block 2 BMD would solve all our problems. It can be operated from naval platforms as well as operating from land. It would be a Swiss Knife type of AD system. One missile for all threats; Air breathing, and ballistic missiles with 3000km range (MRBM).

AFAIK Hisar -U is SİPER. First They had called Hisar-U then officially they called SIPER. İ might be wrong. But nowadays officially nobody calls Hisar-U.

 

[adenl]

The same (different) canisters in this screenshot:

 

[Saithan]

Turkey speeds up works on critical systems like anti-ballistic missiles

Turkey has stepped up efforts to develop anti-ballistic missile systems, a critical technology owned by few countries.For instance, a leading local...

www.dailysabah.com

 

[azaher77]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1365218621627248643

SUNGUR solidified its role in layered air defense with its successful test shot against a moving target at maximum range and altitude. The #SUNGUR Air Defense System, developed by @roketsan, can be integrated into land, air and naval platforms with its portable feature.

 

[azaher77]

It looks like we will see a naval version of the SUNGUR system very soon

 

[Defence Turkey]

SUNGUR Low-Altitude Air Defense System Successfully Hits the Target​

SUNGUR Low-Altitude Air Defense System Successfully Hits the Target

Turkey`s first Mobile Low-Altitude Short-Range Air Defense System SUNGUR, which was indigenously developed by Roketsan, successfully destroyed the target drone at maximum range and altitude during the latest firing test.

www.defenceturkey.com

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Mr Ismail Demir: We are also working on laser and electronic jamming technologies for lower layer air defence.

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Ismail Demir : Deliveries will begin at Sungur and Hisar-A + this year, and at Hisar-O + next year.

 

[Combat-Master]

Ismail Demir : Deliveries will begin at Sungur and Hisar-A + this year, and at Hisar-O + next year.

"Deliveries will be made this year of SUNGUR and HİSAR A +. Our journey to upper levels has begun. SİPER's work continues."

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1367053526296330243

 

[Nutuk]

In the statement made by Prof. Faruk YİĞİT, “In addition to our HİSAR and SİPER air defense systems; We will speed up our design and technology development studies for the development of missile defense systems that will eliminate ballistic missiles at the upper layer. In addition, our work on game-changing technologies will continue; Our work on miniature weapons, hypersonic systems, neuroscience and directed particle weapons will bear new fruits in the coming period. " statements were included

Who is prof. Faruk Yigit? Is he working for SSB?

Edit, never mind. Found that he is head of Roketsan.

But what is directed particle weapon?

 

[Zafer]

Who is prof. Faruk Yigit? Is he working for SSB?

Edit, never mind. Found that he is head of Roketsan.

But what is directed particle weapon?

I haven't made literature search but I am guessing it is like a "proton beam"

"Protons, which are approximately 1800 times more massive than electrons, have deeper penetration in materials and travel in an almost straight path"

edit:

Particle-beam weapon - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Cabatli_TR]

"Deliveries will be made this year of SUNGUR and HİSAR A +. Our journey to upper levels has begun. SİPER's work continues."

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1367053526296330243

"Our journey to upper levels commenced. We take these layers in small steps, not by skipping the layers. Each layer has its own effect."

• "Small Steps"

Korkut(4km)
Sungur(8km)
Hisar-A+(~20km)
Hisar-O+(~40-45km)
Hisar-Rf (55-60km?)
Hisar- (G ?)
Siper Block1 (100+km)
Anti-ballistic missile system

Ismail Demir: "Lower layer protection against swarm drones and other low altitude hostile units"

• A Turkish concept that is going to include;

Radar
EW sensors
Korkut
Laser guns
CRAM missiles (GoldenCage)

 

[Zafer]

"Our journey to upper levels commenced. We take these layers in small steps, not by skipping the layers. Each layer has its own effect."

• "Small Steps"

Korkut(4km)
Sungur(8km)
Hisar-A+(~20km)
Hisar-O+(~40-45km)
Hisar-Rf (55-60km?)
Hisar- (G ?)
Siper Block1 (100+km)
Anti-ballistic missile system

Ismail Demir: "Lower layer protection against swarm drones and other low altitude hostile units"

• A Turkish concept that is going to include;

Radar
EW sensors
Korkut
Laser guns
CRAM missiles (GoldenCage)

Possible addition of particle beam guns going forward.

 

[Kartal1]

Possible addition of particle beam guns going forward.

Wait a second. Is this the same technology here General George Keegan is talking about?

 

[Turko]

"Our journey to upper levels commenced. We take these layers in small steps, not by skipping the layers. Each layer has its own effect."

• "Small Steps"

Korkut(4km)
Sungur(8km)
Hisar-A+(~20km)
Hisar-O+(~40-45km)
Hisar-Rf (55-60km?)
Hisar- (G ?)
Siper Block1 (100+km)
Anti-ballistic missile system

Ismail Demir: "Lower layer protection against swarm drones and other low altitude hostile units"

• A Turkish concept that is going to include;

Radar
EW sensors
Korkut
Laser guns
CRAM missiles (GoldenCage)

We're looking forward to seeing Golden Cage

Turkey would like to develop Golden Cage air defense system similar to

According to the Defense News website, the Turkish Defense industry would like to develop a local-made air defense system similar to the Isreali-made Iron

www.armyrecognition.com

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Laser guns are being developed for naval platforms

 

[Test7]

HISAR-O Medium Altitude Air Defense System successfully passed the farthest range and highest altitude test conducted so far, by directly hitting and destroying the air target.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1369201857692917760

 

[Cabatli_TR]

Perfect hit to kill shot at Max range and altitude. @Combat-Master

 

[Tsenal]

Looks like thrust vectoring

 

[Cabatli_TR]