I was just a stupid joke... but If it is "our land" why aren't the Americans kicked out of there?You're asking Iranians to bomb our land, wtf are you on about? Some of you lot really lose your damn minds just to hate anything Western.
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I was just a stupid joke... but If it is "our land" why aren't the Americans kicked out of there?You're asking Iranians to bomb our land, wtf are you on about? Some of you lot really lose your damn minds just to hate anything Western.
Because we made an agreement with them lad, why is that so hard to understand? They aren't invading us, or taking that land from us with force. Like it or not, they are our allies right now, an ally that we not only have economic ties but also military ones, whether it is equipment or part purchases, like all important engines for example, or training together as apparently the case with these bomber coming here.I was just a stupid joke... but If it is "our land" why aren't the Americans kicked out of there?
Timing and public announcement of nuclear capable bombers is no coincidence. America knew these attacks from Iran will happen since they even attacked American bases successfully. America knew Iran wouldn't mind attacking Israel or Türkiye if provoked. Since Iran also is a nuclear power, now.I dont see anything wrong with the Lancers either, we're NATO, we will train with other NATO countries and their equipment.
I am also of the opinion that Turkey should not allow other countries to use its territory and skies to attack Iran. Probably everyone here remembers 2003. Washington has long asked Ankara to allow American troops to attack Iraq from Turkish territory. He even offered several billion for agreement. Turkiye refused.Timing and public announcement of nuclear capable bombers is no coincidence. America knew these attacks from Iran will happen since they even attacked American bases successfully. America knew Iran wouldn't mind attacking Israel or Türkiye if provoked. Since Iran also is a nuclear power, now.
Treacherous Americans are implying us as a target for Iran to attack instead of Israel on purpose. Iran several times said that she will attack with their unstoppable hypersonic missiles to bases in any and all nations that take part in an attack against Iran.
Not a single plane should be allowed to take flight until this crisis is over. They may take part in an attack against Iran by hiding their true mission.
Do you really think that any traffic can go outbound or inbound of/in Incirlik without the permission of the Turkish Armed Forces?Timing and public announcement of nuclear capable bombers is no coincidence. America knew these attacks from Iran will happen since they even attacked American bases successfully. America knew Iran wouldn't mind attacking Israel or Türkiye if provoked. Since Iran also is a nuclear power, now.
Treacherous Americans are implying us as a target for Iran to attack instead of Israel on purpose. Iran several times said that she will attack with their unstoppable hypersonic missiles to bases in any and all nations that take part in an attack against Iran.
Not a single plane should be allowed to take flight until this crisis is over. They may take part in an attack against Iran by hiding their true mission.
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Who says that we were not in charge of Incirlik in the night of 15th of July? Show him to me so I can spit in his face.The base is a nuclear base. Control of the nukes belong to America, despite co-ownership lies. There are even barbed wire to keep Turks out, inside our own base.
Turkish officers' have a tradition of betraying our nation with coups almost every ten years. It is not as rosey and under control as you pretend. Turkish Armed Forces you say is in charge couldn't do anything for almost a day while they were refueling F-16s from tankers of Incirlik bombing Turkish Parliament. It is not an insult, it is the bitter reality. Turkish armed forces have a thousand years history of mutinies, betrayals and cowardice too. It is not just bravery and sacrifice.
They took out nuclear ballistic missiles without asking us during Cuba crisis. They took out gravity bombs for “maintenance”, who knows if nukes are even real at this point. America doesn't need to store nukes in Incirlik at all. So chances are what we have there are just fakes after they returned the "nukes" from maintenance.
So no we are not in charge of Incirlik. Not 100%.
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Urgent: Move US Nuclear Weapons Out Of Turkey - Federation of American Scientists
Should the U.S. Air Force withdraw the roughly 50 B61 nuclear bombs it stores at the Incirlik Air Base in Turkey? The question has come to a head after Turkey’s invasion of Syria, Erdogan’s increasingly authoritarian leadership and deepening discord with NATO, Trump’s inability to manage U.S...fas.org
Beautifully said, Brother. Next time, no warning. Just perma ban everyone who talks like a Traitor. Mercy is weakness.Who says that we were not in charge of Incirlik in the night of 15th of July? Show him to me so I can spit in his face.
After the terrorists managed to get 3 tankers in the air by deceiving the personnel in the base do you know what happened? They wanted to get another one in the air and at least 3 F-16s, but were prevented. After the leader of the terrorists in Incirlik, Bekir Ercan was confronted by the Turkish soldiers that were in the base he took refugee in the same facility that the US is using and you are saying it is inaccessible to the Turkish Armed Forces. The Turkish soldiers then entered the facility by force, despite the opposition of the US personnel stationed there and in result Bekir Ercan was taken out of this facility and brought to justice later.
On the question of operating F-16s under the control of these terrorists I can tell you one thing. Despite the numerous warnings of honorary Turkish officers, the political leadership in cooperation with the terrorists continued to infiltrate FETO elements within the Armed Forces! What is the end of this? All of the military and civilian administrative facilities under the control of the Fethullah Terrorist Organization were regained within 1 night, the FETO terrorist organization being absolutely shattered, Turkiye starting its own way towards independence.
Don't you try to put the blame on the honorary Turkish officers by comparing them with the traitors and terrorists who wore the uniform of the Turkish Armed Forces in that night ever again without making a distinction! I warn you!
Another thing that I see obliged to say is that you are comparing apples to oranges. You are comparing a terrorist coup attempt with the aim of changing the regime in Turkiye which was made possible due to a 60 years process to a possible independent US military operation out of a sovereign country enabling the possible use of nuclear weapons against another sovereign country. Do you realize what would be the complications and consequences if such a thing happens? Do you even realize what kind of bullshit you are talking about? This is not Call of Duty!
Yes, Turkiye has its problems, but your comments are absolutely immature and bordering madness. Transferring nuclear weapons without the knowledge of the Turkish Armed Forces in or out of Turkiye is not possible. Taking off of nuclear weapons loaded US bombers from Incirlik so they attack another country without the green light of Turkiye is also not possible. This is not a movie! Nuclear weapons are not fireworks or candies and the needed mechanism for the control over such strategic assets is established between the US and Turkiye within certain boundaries which are reinforcing the trust between the two countries prioritizing maximum safety. In the moment when the established protocols are violated Turkiye will take the needed measures to ensure its national security and put an end to the US exploitation of the Incirlik airbase!
Turkiye is not the playground of nobody and if somebody tries to play, we will make him a belly dancer as we previously showed! Who do you think Turkiye is? The years of using Turkiye as a toy are over!
I don't accuse anyone in treachery. I am just giving a friendly warning regarding the clear distinction between the Turkish soldier and a terrorist wearing the Turkish camouflage pattern infiltrated into the institution. This usage of words may have came in a result of a frustration and a state of mind. I don't know. We may agree or disagree on the other points, but this warning is important! This is also not a personal warning, but rather warning to every reader.Beautifully said, Brother. Next time no warning, just perma ban everyone who talks like a Traitor. Mercy is weakness.
Give me mod rights, I clean this HouseAnother point I want to make clear is that I am a moderator and not a perma ban machine
B-1B is not nuclear capable anymore. Only about half of B-2s and small number of B-52s are.Timing and public announcement of nuclear capable bombers is no coincidence.
In Germany, FDP is ok with it, SPD is neutral and the Greens are against it.Will Germany approve Türkiye's 40 Eurofighter request? Has attitude of Germans turned to positive?
What did Steinmeier say in Ankara?
Anybody knows?
In Germany, FDP is ok with it, SPD is neutral and the Greens are against it.
That woman, the Foreign Minister, Annalena Baerbock, is part of the Greens, and is very against it.
They are trying to convince her.
Germans love shooting themselves in the foot. Could you imagine embargoing a country for using the defence weapons you sold them against their adversaries? Isn't that the point of buying weapons? To use them against your enemy?
Look at this graphic, literally destroying their civil and defense industries to be "morally superior". Then look at France, good for the French.
From 6.3% to 5.6%. And 7.2% to 11%. France is now a bigger exporter of weapons than Russia!
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