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“At Teknofest (* must be a solo air show during the organization) in Cyprus, the F4 aircraft narrowly escaped (*escapes) the disaster. The accident was prevented with a very skillful maneuver...”

Sure, pilot displayed his experience and skills as a seasoned aviator, but you cannot ignore the powerful thrust ran through those good ole J79 engines, either. This moment proves Jeremy Clarkson right one more time as he constantly claimed over the years, raw power and performance of an engine is crucial.
I think he needs new pants now.
Probably the silence was very loud after that maneuver.
 
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number of edge of disaster incidents increasing rapidly.
How come?
I think one reason is we are seeing an increase in flights where such incident are possible. More show flights than in the past.
 

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Radio communication between pilot and gun operator and control tower must be unmissable!!
Other pilots would have ejected
Ejection would have been the right thing, frankly. But most of time our pilots just refusing to do that. In the past, we lost extremely valuable and skilled pilots in such conditions. It seems that is a near-miss situation from this camera angle, but fortunately we evaded the worst.

Our pilots tend to think the aircraft is valuable, belong the people etc, however, they should also remember that them, themselves are much more valuable and belong to the people, too.

Anyway, our brave and beloved pilots are safe today, this all that matters.

Şükürler olsun
 

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Ejection would have been the right thing, frankly. But most of time our pilots just refusing to do that. In the past, we lost extremely valuable and skilled pilots in such conditions. It seems that is a near-miss situation from this camera angle, but fortunately we evaded the worst.

Our pilots tend to think the aircraft is valuable, belong the people etc, however, they should also remember that them, themselves are much more valuable and belong to the people, too.

Anyway, our brave and beloved pilots are safe today, this all that matters.

Şükürler olsun
At such an angle and low speed, there's also the real possibility that ejection could lead to fatality or serious injuries. I don't think Terminators had their ejection seats replaced, so they are carrying renovated seats from 60 years ago with much less capability.
 

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At such an angle and low speed, there's also the real possibility that ejection could lead to fatality or serious injuries. I don't think Terminators had their ejection seats replaced, so they are carrying renovated seats from 60 years ago with much less capability.
There are similar incidents on the web, I leave the links here.



I still think ejection would be right call, if seats are reliable of course.

However, I didnt take into consideration that ejection seat could be so old, if that is the case, fair enough, you might be right.
 

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Ejection would have been the right thing, frankly. But most of time our pilots just refusing to do that. In the past, we lost extremely valuable and skilled pilots in such conditions. It seems that is a near-miss situation from this camera angle, but fortunately we evaded the worst.

Our pilots tend to think the aircraft is valuable, belong the people etc, however, they should also remember that them, themselves are much more valuable and belong to the people, too.

Anyway, our brave and beloved pilots are safe today, this all that matters.

Şükürler olsun

Bailing out is acceptable in training but not in show or in mission. And obviously it is not the equipment failing but the timing of the pilot being off some. Even that is questionable as we don't really see how close the plane actually was to the ground, you can see the plane going past the ground line already but you don't see how far down the ground is. So it is not the age old plane that is valuable it is the bravery of Turkish soldiers, dignity of Turkish aviators and also the life of the audience that the uncontrolled plane will cause great risk to.
 

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“At Teknofest (* must be a solo air show during the organization) in Cyprus, the F4 aircraft narrowly escaped (*escapes) the disaster. The accident was prevented with a very skillful maneuver...”

Sure, pilot displayed his experience and skills as a seasoned aviator, but you cannot ignore the powerful thrust ran through those good ole J79 engines, either. This moment proves Jeremy Clarkson right one more time as he constantly claimed over the years, raw power and performance of an engine is crucial.
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Since TurAF wants to buy EFs, i think this video is related to this thread.
In this episode of The Fighter Show, we take you inside the Eurofighter Typhoon like never before.

Filmed on location at Airbus' Final Assembly Line in Manching, Germany, this exclusive walkthrough reveals how one of the world's most advanced fighter jets comes together - from first fit to final inspection.

Host Flo Taitsch meets the engineers and technicians who make the Typhoon a reality. Along the way, we get rare, up-close access to each stage of the build process - capturing the precision, craftsmanship and complexity behind every airframe.

Whether you're a die-hard aviation fan or just curious about how modern combat aircraft are made, this episode is packed with insights, access and behind-the-scenes footage of the Eurofighter Typhoon you won’t see anywhere else.
 

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Now, about the engine. Any developments on the F110 for Kaan or F404 for Hürjet? Especially since things warmed up with the US after Trump returned.
We’ve had applications in for a while both for the F110 and F404. They’re currently in the US Congress phase. I visited the US last month to discuss this, and none of the officials foresee major issues. As you said, with Trump’s return and improving US-Turkey ties, the outlook is positive. Especially for the F404 being a trainer engine, restrictions are lighter than for fighter engines. The process might take time due to administrative reshuffling, but we hope for good news in a few months. We’re continuing as if approval is certain.
 
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They’re currently in the US Congress phase. I visited the US last month to discuss this, and none of the officials foresee major issues
100 F404 engines were ordered in 2023 at the latest. No "congress phase" takes 2 years.
 

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“At Teknofest (* must be a solo air show during the organization) in Cyprus, the F4 aircraft narrowly escaped (*escapes) the disaster. The accident was prevented with a very skillful maneuver...”

Sure, pilot displayed his experience and skills as a seasoned aviator, but you cannot ignore the powerful thrust ran through those good ole J79 engines, either. This moment proves Jeremy Clarkson right one more time as he constantly claimed over the years, raw power and performance of an engine is crucial.
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“At Teknofest (* must be a solo air show during the organization) in Cyprus, the F4 aircraft narrowly escaped (*escapes) the disaster. The accident was prevented with a very skillful maneuver...”

Sure, pilot displayed his experience and skills as a seasoned aviator, but you cannot ignore the powerful thrust ran through those good ole J79 engines, either. This moment proves Jeremy Clarkson right one more time as he constantly claimed over the years, raw power and performance of an engine is crucial.
I think from this angle, that maneuver looks less dangerous, but still a close call.
 

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Just for clarifying. Turkeye had a local modernization program for F-16 Block 30 and 40 and that is more than 130 plane I gues. So how long will the program take to be completed? And how good is this modernization?

To be clear if the Typhoon are ordered and few even arrived don't be surprised if the contract is blocked and even the parts stopped being shipped in case Turkeye was pushed to do any big operation against terrorist groups even if not a single civilians died.
 

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Just for clarifying. Turkeye had a local modernization program for F-16 Block 30 and 40 and that is more than 130 plane I gues. So how long will the program take to be completed? And how good is this modernization?

To be clear if the Typhoon are ordered and few even arrived don't be surprised if the contract is blocked and even the parts stopped being shipped in case Turkeye was pushed to do any big operation against terrorist groups even if not a single civilians died.

Özgür Projesi

CapabilitiesBlock-30ÖZGÜRBlock-70
Digital Cockpit⭕✅✅
Color MFD⭕✅✅
Digital Engine/Fuel/Hydraulic Indicators⭕✅✅
Link-16⭕✅✅
Digital Terrain System⭕✅✅
Digital Map⭕✅✅
Internal/External NVIS Compatibility⭕✅✅
Instrument Approach/Landing⭕✅⭕
GPS Capability⭕✅✅
ASELPOD⭕✅✅
Reconnaissance Pod (DB-110)⭕✅⭕
Mode-S and Interrogation⭕Phase-2✅
MURAD AESA⭕✅ (Phase-2)⭕
Flight Life8000 hours12000 hours⭕



 
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Özgür Projesi

CapabilitiesBlock-30ÖZGÜRBlock-70
Digital Cockpit⭕✅✅
Color MFD⭕✅✅
Digital Engine/Fuel/Hydraulic Indicators⭕✅✅
Link-16⭕✅✅
Digital Terrain System⭕✅✅
Digital Map⭕✅✅
Internal/External NVIS Compatibility⭕✅✅
Instrument Approach/Landing⭕✅⭕
GPS Capability⭕✅✅
ASELPOD⭕✅✅
Reconnaissance Pod (DB-110)⭕✅⭕
Mode-S and Interrogation⭕Phase-2✅
MURAD AESA⭕✅ (Phase-2)⭕
Flight Life8000 hours12000 hours⭕



F-16 block 70 has AESA radar and it definitely has Recce pod, just not old DB-110.
 
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