TR Air Forces|News & Discussion

[Saithan]

Can Turkey turn the Hurjet into a Alenia Aermacchi M-346 Master copy and use jet powered drones to make up for it's short comings?

we haven't even signed a purchase contract on the engines, so it's futile to talk about it.

 

[No Name]

we haven't even signed a purchase contract on the engines, so it's futile to talk about it.

That is why i said a Alenia Aermacchi M-346 Master copy since it uses 2 Honeywell/ITEC F124 as an engine which is similar to the TF-6000.

 

[boredaf]

That is why i said a Alenia Aermacchi M-346 Master copy since it uses 2 Honeywell/ITEC F124 as an engine which is similar to the TF-6000.

That would mean designing a new jet from scratch and going through everything again. It is most definitely not worth the trouble, especially since we can just use the bloody drones without a need for an inferior jet to accompany them.

 

[Saithan]

Am I wrong, but has this government not succeeded in a single new Fighterjet purchase since they came to power ? I remember the the last delivery was in 2007 or so, but I am not sure if the contract was signed way before AKP.

 

[Sanchez]

Am I wrong, but has this government not succeeded in a single new Fighterjet purchase since they came to power ? I remember the the last delivery was in 2007 or so, but I am not sure if the contract was signed way before AKP.

CCIP upgrade, purchase of source codes for block 30 and 40 and the purchase of 30 Block 50+s were signed in this government's term. Those remaining 29 B50+s are the only new fighters incurred into service for the last 30-35 years.

 

[No Name]

That would mean designing a new jet from scratch and going through everything again. It is most definitely not worth the trouble, especially since we can just use the bloody drones without a need for an inferior jet to accompany them.

That is true, but wasn't the government working on a navalized version that would require the Hurjet to be redesigned anyway?

 

[boredaf]

That is true, but was the going to be a navalized version that would need the Hurjet to be redesigned anyway?

Just because they are putting Hürjet on models doesn't mean they are going to be actually used for anything other than as training. It is beyond ridiculous to think about putting a low payload jet on a carrier in 2040s.

 

[No Name]

Just because they are putting Hürjet on models doesn't mean they are going to be actually used for anything other than as training. It is beyond ridiculous to think about putting a low payload jet on a carrier in 2040s.

you're right but they are the ones saying all this crazy ideas i'm just trying to think of a way to make this all work out.

 

[Strong AI]

German government denies claims it blocked Eurofighter sale to Turkey

The German Federal Ministry for Economic Affairs and Climate Action has denied allegations that the government blocked the sale of Eurofighter jets to Turkey.

In a written response to a question from an Anadolu Agency (AA) correspondent, ministry spokesperson Tim-Niklas Wentzel stated that the current interim government has not made any decision regarding the approval of the sale of Eurofighter jets, and that significant decisions will be taken by the new government set to take office next month.

Wentzel said, "The (current) interim government will not make decisions in advance regarding comprehensive arms and equipment exports, which are to be taken by the upcoming government."

Alman hükümeti Türkiye'ye Eurofighter satışını engellediği iddialarını yalanladı

Almanya Ekonomi ve İklim Koruma Bakanlığı, hükümetin Eurofighter jetlerinin Türkiye'ye satışını engellediği iddialarını reddetti. - Anadolu Ajansı

www.aa.com.tr

From now on i will trust a news only when it quotes an official with a name. Even german media went down the drain.

 

[boredaf]

Alman hükümeti Türkiye'ye Eurofighter satışını engellediği iddialarını yalanladı

Almanya Ekonomi ve İklim Koruma Bakanlığı, hükümetin Eurofighter jetlerinin Türkiye'ye satışını engellediği iddialarını reddetti. - Anadolu Ajansı

www.aa.com.tr

From now on i will trust a news only when it quotes an official with a name. Even german media went down the drain.

So, it was a nothingburger aimed at generating clicks. Fucking hate modern "journalism". Can't wait to see some people's reactions to this news though, there were a lot of celebratory wanking going around on the Internet lol

 

[Samba]

Alman hükümeti Türkiye'ye Eurofighter satışını engellediği iddialarını yalanladı

Almanya Ekonomi ve İklim Koruma Bakanlığı, hükümetin Eurofighter jetlerinin Türkiye'ye satışını engellediği iddialarını reddetti. - Anadolu Ajansı

www.aa.com.tr

From now on i will trust a news only when it quotes an official with a name. Even german media went down the drain.

LOL

 

[Khagan1923]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1916031995173630305

Don't know if I should laugh or cry at this situation. A country nevent 1/10 of your size has a better procurement strategy than us.

We should be the ones running after C-390, A400M, CH-47 and MH-60R (or at least more S-70) yet regulary we hear from our officials how there is no interest and need for those crafts.

Not even gonna mention the mismanagement of the T-70 project.

Complete shithow.

Can't even complete the transaction for second-hand C-130 from the Brits.

But don't worry when the T-925 enters inventory in 2032 and our own logistic-lift plane project is announced and finished in 2040 everything will be fine until then we will iha siha 31 everything, right? In the meantime we can afford some more A8, S-Class and 7 series for our yandas.

 

[boredaf]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1916031995173630305

Don't know if I should laugh or cry at this situation. A country nevent 1/10 of your size has a better procurement strategy than us.

We should be the ones running after C-390, A400M, CH-47 and MH-60R (or at least more S-70) yet regulary we hear from our officials how there is no interest and need for those crafts.

Not even gonna mention the mismanagement of the T-70 project.

Complete shithow.

Can't even complete the transaction for second-hand C-130 from the Brits.

But don't worry when the T-925 enters inventory in 2032 and our own logistic-lift plane project is announced and finished in 2040 everything will be fine until then we will iha siha 31 everything, right? In the meantime we can afford some more A8, S-Class and 7 series for our yandas.

Take a deep breath mate, it has already been reported weeks ago that we are in contact with Brazil to procure C-390.

 

[mTT]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1916031995173630305

Don't know if I should laugh or cry at this situation. A country nevent 1/10 of your size has a better procurement strategy than us.

We should be the ones running after C-390, A400M, CH-47 and MH-60R (or at least more S-70) yet regulary we hear from our officials how there is no interest and need for those crafts.

Not even gonna mention the mismanagement of the T-70 project.

Complete shithow.

Can't even complete the transaction for second-hand C-130 from the Brits.

But don't worry when the T-925 enters inventory in 2032 and our own logistic-lift plane project is announced and finished in 2040 everything will be fine until then we will iha siha 31 everything, right? In the meantime we can afford some more A8, S-Class and 7 series for our yandas.

Greece is sending a letter to Brazil to order 3 C-390s. In the reply, there are 2 different packages and prices. They choose one of the 2 options and order.

Turkey sends a letter to Brazil to order 3 C-390s. The same answer comes for us, it says these are the prices of 2 different packages.
We do not accept these packages, we create new packages and send them to them. They reorganize those packages and send them to us. This cycle happens 10-20 times (it takes months because there is no whatsapp call). The C-390 engine is from UK rolls-royce. Embraer needs some permissions for our packages. This kind of official correspondence extends our pre-order period.

We have in our packages, domestic production, maintenance authorization, spare parts production, software permissions etc.

Selling products to us takes too long because of our requests.


What I have explained here is only for an illustration.

 

[Khagan1923]

Take a deep breath mate, it has already been reported weeks ago that we are in contact with Brazil to procure C-390.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1907711181449490882

We are not the ones interested. Embraer approached us to sell us some that does not mean we are interested in buying them. For a country whose officials can't even close a deal for 12 second-hand C-130J I would not be so optimistic.

Same officials weren't able to finalize the F-16 deal now for almost two years and now have suspended it in hopes they can get some F-35 instead.

By the time they get the bright idea to actually modernize and refresh the fleet Embraers production line will be full and you can wait 5 years for the first aircraft.

Don't know where you guys get the confidence that this will be a smooth sailing when this countries government is ridden with incompetency on all its levels.

Same officials as the ones who rejected the proposed deal by Embraer years ago to join this project btw.

 

[mTT]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1917527413690622116

 

[Ripley]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1917600726836195767

“At Teknofest (* must be a solo air show during the organization) in Cyprus, the F4 aircraft narrowly escaped (*escapes) the disaster. The accident was prevented with a very skillful maneuver...”

Sure, pilot displayed his experience and skills as a seasoned aviator, but you cannot ignore the powerful thrust ran through those good ole J79 engines, either. This moment proves Jeremy Clarkson right one more time as he constantly claimed over the years, raw power and performance of an engine is crucial.

 

[Sanchez]

What would be very skillful is not needing that maneuver in the first place. Disaster averted, again. Hopefully there won't be a third time.

 

[Ripley]

What would be very skillful is not needing that maneuver in the first place. Disaster averted, again. Hopefully there won't be a third time.

number of edge of disaster incidents increasing rapidly.
How come?

 

[Gaucho]

Radio communication between pilot and gun operator and control tower must be unmissable!!
Other pilots would have ejected