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[Sanchez]

Milli AESA Burun Radarı ilk kez F-16 ÖZGÜR ile uçtu | SavunmaSanayiST

ASELSAN Milli AESA Burun Radarı, F-16 ÖZGÜR savaş uçağıyla ilk uçuşunu gerçekleştirdi. Milli AESA Burun Radarı'nın ilk uçuşu başarıyla tamamlandı.

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That's not APG-83. This is a meaningless conversation.

Two aircraft will carry two different radars. Murad on F-16 won't be as powerful as the nose radar on Kaan.

 

[Tornadoss]

The F-16 has block 70 AESA, but there is no ASELSAN MURAD 100-AESA in block 70.

With that logic, Block 70 won't have Aselsan MFD display as well you can also cross that. or all the other lines.

 

[Strong AI]

I think we can say now that TurAF will get Eurofighters for sure insaAllah.

Germany’s new Chancellor Friedrich Merz, during his first visit to the European Union (EU) in Brussels, the capital of Belgium, met with European Council President Antonio Costa and European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen.

"TURKEY IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO US!"
In a statement following the meetings, Merz also addressed relations with Turkey, saying: "Turkey is an extremely important NATO partner for us. I will do everything I can to maintain and further strengthen Turkey-NATO relations. I will accept President Erdoğan's invitation to visit him in the near future."

Son dakika... Alman Başbakan'dan flaş Türkiye açıklaması!

Haber 7 - Son dakika... AB'yi ilk kez ziyaret eden Almanya Başbakanı Merz açıklamasında "Türkiye bizim için son derece önemli bir NATO ortağıdır. Türkiye-NATO ilişkilerini sürdürmek ve daha da genişletmek için elimden gelen her şeyi yapacağım"dedi.

www.haber7.com

 

[TR_123456]

Turkey-NATO relations.

Strange statement, as if we are not a member of NATO.
What relations?

 

[BalkanTurk90]

I think we can say now that TurAF will get Eurofighters for sure insaAllah.

Germany’s new Chancellor Friedrich Merz, during his first visit to the European Union (EU) in Brussels, the capital of Belgium, met with European Council President Antonio Costa and European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen.

"TURKEY IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO US!"
In a statement following the meetings, Merz also addressed relations with Turkey, saying: "Turkey is an extremely important NATO partner for us. I will do everything I can to maintain and further strengthen Turkey-NATO relations. I will accept President Erdoğan's invitation to visit him in the near future."

Son dakika... Alman Başbakan'dan flaş Türkiye açıklaması!

Haber 7 - Son dakika... AB'yi ilk kez ziyaret eden Almanya Başbakanı Merz açıklamasında "Türkiye bizim için son derece önemli bir NATO ortağıdır. Türkiye-NATO ilişkilerini sürdürmek ve daha da genişletmek için elimden gelen her şeyi yapacağım"dedi.

www.haber7.com

Just spending time for nothing while israel bombing syria non stop and there are news that aslo some turkish staff were bombed dur8ng those raids and Turkiye cant do nothing agaist tiny fake terror country israel , better to look at someone else and make our airforce the largest and modern in world . And stop licking US and EU assholes . The solution is to talk to China to buy more than 250 J35 steath fighter and build them in home with Turkish systems , and Aesa radars . Aslo modernise all 240 f16 in home . With around 500 fighter jets with AESA we can easy go in syria and protect ourselfs and allies . There arw no more humiliation than to get bombed by israel and do nothing . Since 10 years licking ZIONISM ass to buy some overrrated non steath aircrafts that will be controlled throw spare parts or Software from main producer in Eu or US .

 

[Saithan]

Strange statement, as if we are not a member of NATO.
What relations?

Yes, but it shows their mentality, so we should get what we can without promising anything.

Tbh, I don't think they'll give anything. Not even the jets

 

[Strong AI]

Strange statement, as if we are not a member of NATO.
What relations?

Looks like turkish media just did a bad job translating it.
Here is the original german quote:
"Deswegen ist die Türkei für uns ein extrem wertvoller, wichtiger Nato-Partner und ich werde viel und alles tun, was ich kann, um diese Partnerschaft innerhalb der Nato mit der Türkei auch aufrechtzuerhalten und auch weiter auszubauen."

 

[Saithan]

Looks like turkish media just did a bad job translating it.
Here is the original german quote:
"Deswegen ist die Türkei für uns ein extrem wertvoller, wichtiger Nato-Partner und ich werde viel und alles tun, was ich kann, um diese Partnerschaft innerhalb der Nato mit der Türkei auch aufrechtzuerhalten und auch weiter auszubauen."

So he mentioned Türkiye specifically to highlight the importance ?

 

[TR_123456]

Looks like Turkish media just did a bad job translating it.
Here is the original german quote:
"Deswegen ist die Türkei für uns ein extrem wertvoller, wichtiger Nato-Partner und ich werde viel und alles tun, was ich kann, um diese Partnerschaft innerhalb der Nato mit der Türkei auch aufrechtzuerhalten und auch weiter auszubauen."

Verdammte idioten(damn idiots).

 

[Strong AI]

Ok here is a german source for the news. I should have posted this instead my previous post.

Merz: Turkey is an "extremely valuable, important NATO partner"

Turkey is waiting for the green light from Germany to receive fighter jets. Friedrich Merz is not giving it yet he still sends clear words toward Ankara.

The new German Chancellor, Friedrich Merz, is relying on close cooperation with Turkey on defense matters. He and NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte share “the firm will to continue to closely bind Turkey, as a major NATO member country, to us,” said the CDU politician during his inaugural visit to NATO in Brussels.

Turkey protects an area within NATO territory whose strategic importance “cannot be overstated,” Merz continued during a joint press conference with Rutte. “That’s why Turkey is an extremely valuable, important NATO partner for us, and I will do much and everything I can to maintain and further develop this partnership with Turkey within NATO.”

Friedrich Merz wants to accept Erdoğan's invitation

Merz also said he intends to accept an invitation from Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan in the near future. Whether fighter jets will be approved for delivery to Turkey is still a decision the German government must make.

Turkey wants 40 Eurofighter jets. Since Germany is part of the European joint project, the fighter jets cannot be exported without the German government’s approval.

Merz: Türkei "extrem wertvoller, wichtiger Nato-Partner"

Präsident Erdogan wartet auf grünes Licht aus Deutschland für die Lieferung von Kampfjets. Das gibt Friedrich Merz nicht – und schickt trotzdem eindeutige Worte in Richtung Ankara.

www.stern.de

 

[No Name]

Just spending time for nothing while israel bombing syria non stop and there are news that aslo some turkish staff were bombed dur8ng those raids,

do you have any information on this?

 

[BalkanTurk90]

do you have any information on this?

no, just heard a albanian Analysts talk in youtube / TV about gjeo-politics in middle east .
Even if its not true than its just matter of time when that will happen .
We are active all over syria while Israel is 'active' bombing it .
And i will not wonder if Turkish goverment will aslo hide news when Turkish staff get killed in syria . And do nothing , At least other respods , we nothing . Even a single bullet we didnt fire at israeli while they bombing and killing Turks .

 

[Strong AI]

I think this part of that news is only the interpretation of the author, nothing official.

Turkey is waiting for the green light from Germany to receive fighter jets. Friedrich Merz is not giving it yet he still sends clear words toward Ankara.

This is the last known official information from Germany, if we assume that AA doesn't lie.

German government denies claims it blocked Eurofighter sale to Turkey

The German Federal Ministry for Economic Affairs and Climate Action has denied allegations that the government blocked the sale of Eurofighter jets to Turkey.

In a written response to a question from an Anadolu Agency (AA) correspondent, ministry spokesperson Tim-Niklas Wentzel stated that the current interim government has not made any decision regarding the approval of the sale of Eurofighter jets, and that significant decisions will be taken by the new government set to take office next month.

Wentzel said, "The (current) interim government will not make decisions in advance regarding comprehensive arms and equipment exports, which are to be taken by the upcoming government."

Alman hükümeti Türkiye'ye Eurofighter satışını engellediği iddialarını yalanladı

Almanya Ekonomi ve İklim Koruma Bakanlığı, hükümetin Eurofighter jetlerinin Türkiye'ye satışını engellediği iddialarını reddetti. - Anadolu Ajansı

www.aa.com.tr

From now on i will trust a news only when it quotes an official with a name. Even german media went down the drain.

 

[mehmed beg]

Seemingly, people don't understand that Israel and and their helpers issues will take a long time to solve. I don't see them being able to finish off Hamas, no? So , whatever it might go down in Syria, with the right preparation, they can be burned there.
It will take the time to complete Typhoon purchase and integration or Ozgur or all other offensive and defensive systems.
In the meantime, let's watch the way they work. Let them make a long rope for themselves.
Patience and work are the only things that matter.

 

[Ripley]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1921260156030976418

“The wonderful patch for our new squadron, Uçbey”

Mr. Doğut informs that it will be new F16 squadron.
Its still unknown whether it will be formed with maybe future block70s and at what base.


The patch in close detail.
The motto is from Atatürk and it reads “A nation without past will not have a future”

The patch was designed on a very famous photo of Mustafa Kemal Atatürk in a real janissary costume that was brought from military museum in Istanbul for a fancy dress ball in Sofia, Bulgaria during his tenure as military attache.

EDIT: Please see the following post by dear Sanchez with a detailed info about this new squadron.
Thank you @Sanchez

 

[Sanchez]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1921260156030976418

“The wonderful patch for our new squadron, Uçbey”

Mr. Doğut informs that it will be new F16 squadron.
Its still unknown whether it will be formed with maybe future block70s and at what base.


The patch in close detail.
The motto is from Atatürk and it reads “A nation without past will not have a future”


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The patch was designed on a very famous photo of Mustafa Kemal Atatürk in a real janissary costume that was brought from military museum in Istanbul for a fancy dress ball in Sofia, Bulgaria during his tenure as military attache.

It's not a new squadron per se. It was formed last year from aircraft and crews being sent over to Dalaman, some of them were 401 squadron aircraft, but probably not all.

Gök vatanın "demir kartalları" yeni yıla nöbette giriyor

Türkiye Cumhuriyeti'nin hava yetki alanlarının teminatı Hava Kuvvetleri Komutanlığı personeli, yeni yıla ailelerinden uzak, komutanları ve silah arkadaşlarıyla girdi. - Anadolu Ajansı

www.aa.com.tr

As far as i can remember, TurAF currently have 8(7 if you discount 113) combat squadrons made up of F-16s.

Brings the new total to 10 squadrons, if we count 113. There were some talks about it for some time, but it's nice to finally put a face on it. Newest fighter squadron of the air force, 166 'Uçbey', based in 16th jet base in Dalaman finally have a patch.

HvKK lowered the number of squadrons since 2011 for multiple reasons. First was to get ready for F-35s, but major reason was the loss of personell after 2016 coup attempt. It's nice to see some return to normalcy.

To go over fighter squadrons, I count 111 Panthers operating F-4s, 113, 132, 151, 161, 181, 191, 193, 152 and now 166 operating F-16s. Orko's ekşisözlük entry where he actively follows HVKK organization with OSINT data since 2005 is probably the best source to follow changes.

 

[Ahmad]

Turkish air force should consider J10 with PL15AA missiles or JF17 Block 3 as stop Gap solutions. In current India Pakistan conflict the world have seen some magic things happend. Aselson should speed up HAVASOJ program as Turkish electronic warfare technology has proven itself and is in elite class. If Pakistan can shoot Rafale fighter jet with J10 and PL15AA MISSILES then it proves that with best techniques technologyical superior platform like Rafale can be defeated.

 

[uçuyorum]

Turkish air force should consider J10 with PL15AA missiles or JF17 Block 3 as stop Gap solutions. In current India Pakistan conflict the world have seen some magic things happend. Aselson should speed up HAVASOJ program as Turkish electronic warfare technology is proven itself and is in elite class. If Pakistan can shoot Rafale fighter jet with J10 and PL15AA MISSILES then it proves that with best techniques technologyical superior platform like Rafale can be defeated.

Not really likely, but we should hurry up on Murad and Gökdoğan

 

[Sanchez]

superior platform like Rafale can be defeated

Rafale is not superior to J-10C.

Turkey opting for Chinese or Chinese tech aircraft is unlikely as we have our own commitments and issues that require a NATO hand at play. And CAATSA still exists.

 

[Afif]

Turkish air force should consider J10 with PL15AA missiles or JF17 Block 3 as stop Gap solutions.

Not gonna work. It is not going to be compatible. The reason PAF did well is because they have a system of systems in place notting together AWACS, jammers, Ground AD and figthers. This excellent level of integration allowed the formation of fighters in the sky to pull a very synchronized and complex BVR maneuvers that resulted in partial and temporary superiority against IAF. Not because of any single system. Although it also proved J10c and PL-15 to be a potent combo. But the main lesson is, a winning fight is an integrated fight.