TR Air Forces|News & Discussion

[Lool]

TR should negotiate with GR in never-ending negotiations until the Turkish Armed forces become a behemoth neither the EU nor the USA is willing to bother. TR should not plan a war but plan the systematic destruction of GRs military manpower (GR is low on manpower and can't sustain military units if GR loses a few hundred thousand) and infrastructure (energy, industry, refineries, ports, airports, power plants, etc). TR should refrain from harming civilians as much as possible as they will be the ones that will hang their governments for their stupid decisions.

Oh, BTW we should increase our defense spending to %2 of our GDP and start an arms race.

Agreed, the scenario you proposed is the optimal outcome tbh

When Greece recently announced their intent to perform shared gas explorations in the east Med, I immediateky knew it was a trap. If Turkey refused, Greece will portray Turkey as the aggressor and if Turkey accepted, then Greece somehow legally ensured that it has claims one way or another in the east Med

The ideal scenario is to enter in never-ending negotiations until Turkey become strong enough that no other nation would want to confront it just like with China and ofcourse...... Turkey should get nukes

 

[Heartbang]

Oh, BTW we should increase our defense spending to %2 of our GDP and start an arms race.

Good call. That's what ended the Soviet Union. They tried to updo Reagan's SDI program, which was a behemoth for even the Americans.

 

[Bürküt]

Agreed, the scenario you proposed is the optimal outcome tbh

When Greece recently announced their intent to perform shared gas explorations in the east Med, I immediateky knew it was a trap. If Turkey refused, Greece will portray Turkey as the aggressor and if Turkey accepted, then Greece somehow legally ensured that it has claims one way or another in the east Med

The ideal scenario is to enter in never-ending negotiations until Turkey become strong enough that no other nation would want to confront it just like with China and ofcourse...... Turkey should get nukes

Greece has so far planned its plans to launch a repressive first strike.They built the whole game on the fact that on the 4th day of the conflict, France and the United States will load ammunition on cargo planes and come to his aid.But this plan is slowly falling apart.The European Union, which has been badly affected economically by the pandemic and the Russia-Ukraine war, will not want to fund the East-Med project.In case of a possible war, the ammunition stocks that the Americans and Europeans can send to Greece are running out thanks to the aid to Ukraine.And if there comes an opposition that can embrace the Blue Homeland doctrine and maintain good diplomatic relations with the West ,all imperialist ambitions of Greece will collapse

 

[dBSPL]

War is pre-declared in 90s in Turkish senate as in "casus belli". Even suggesting that Türkiye may not go to war over being blocked in Aegean is against all Turkish interests. Months later Greece will unite with Cyprus (ENOSIS) as current EOKA terror group supporting Cyprus president suggested and block us in Mediterranean too. If our resolve wavers a tiny bit on 12 miles or Mavivatan. We were at war with US twice once in Libya and once when their warships were bombing cities like Samsun along with Greek warships. It seems to me since they are training Cyprus for the coming war and invasion of north Cyprus and already surrounded us in Iraq, Syria, Cyprus, Greece and donated billions to Greece and PKK. It is inevitable at this point. Only a Turkish thermonuclear test can give them pause IMHO.

I apologize, but I would like to make a small addition. It is actually a Greek propaganda that the Turkish parliament has passed a casus belli resolution. Unfortunately we fall into this trap very often.

The Turkish Parliament's declaration of June 8, 1995 was adopted in response to the Greek Parliament's decision to authorize the Greek government to unilaterally increase its territorial waters to 12 miles. Greek governments were authorized by parliament to take this step. The Greek side is consciously trying to forgeted its own decision, by defining TR's bill with the concept of "casus belli", which is prohibited by the UN system. The Turkish parliament has authorized the armed forces to take all measures in the event of a Greek attempt to invade Turkish territorial waters. This is a right under international law and is in line with UN principles.

If you look at the Foreign Ministry's sites relevant pages that explanation of the official state thesis, it is clear that the Turkish state vehemently rejects this argument and that the parliamentary decision is aimed at preventing Greek aggression and expansionism.

 

[Fuzuli NL]

There is also the belief that Türkiye would go to war as soon as Greece extends their territorial waters to12 miles.
I think that Türkiye will try diplomatucally first then if no avail, preserve the right to a military or a retaliatory response.

 

[Heartbang]

There is also the belief that Türkiye would go to war as soon as Greece extends their territorial waters to12 miles.

That's what the declaration says though.

"The Turkish Grand National Assembly, while hoping that the Greek Government will not decide to extend its territorial waters in the Aegean beyond 6 miles in a manner that would upset the balance established by the treaty of Lausanne, resolves that in the event of such a possibility, the Government of the Republic of Turkey shall be vested with all powers, including those deemed militarily necessary, in order to protect and defend the vital interests of our country, and that this situation be announced to the Greek and world public with friendly feelings"

 

[godel44]

There is also the belief that Türkiye would go to war as soon as Greece extends their territorial waters to12 miles.
I think that Türkiye will try diplomatucally first then if no avail, preserve the right to a military or a retaliatory response.

It's not just extending to 12 miles but extending to anything beyond 6. What would happen is probably the same thing that happens in the air. Right after Greeks make such an announcement, a Turkish ship goes inside the 12 miles and makes a leisurely journey in those waters while the military is mobilized on the shore. If that ship is attacked, it's war. If not, they run into the same problem they have in the air of announcing an expansion but being unable to enforce it with multitudes of ships using waters that are supposedly theirs.

 

[Ryder]

Losing the Aegan Islands is a tragedy.

Now we see long term consequences of not having a proper navy.

 

[Ryder]

I hope one day to see the Turkish Navy operate naval jets.

One day even if we dont live to see it.

 

[Knowledgeseeker]

The E-7T Peace Eagle aircraft made a beautiful flight over the Bosphorus.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1650132081656098816

 

[what]

Its the perfect location for future parades if you think of it.

 

[Ryder]

The E-7T Peace Eagle aircraft made a beautiful flight over the Bosphorus.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1650132081656098816

I saw the Australian Airforce one at the Airshow.

Such a beautiful plane.

It was quiet compared to the F22 and F35s. It was like a peaceful eagle just gliding past.

 

[dBSPL]

The heroic and self-sacrificing pilots of our Air Force, with whom we celebrate Pilots' Day, salute Istanbul from seven hills...
- Ministry of Defense of the Republic of Turkiye

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1651222843617599491

 

[Bogeyman]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1652035156016766990

It was announced that the F-16 accompanying Hürjet during its first flight was a Block-30 that had undergone the Özgür modernization.

 

[boredaf]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1652035156016766990

It was announced that the F-16 accompanying Hürjet during its first flight was a Block-30 that had undergone the Özgür modernization.

We were flexing twice without even telling anyone lol

 

[Strong AI]

Would it make sense to create a drone division / force within TurAF?
With that rapid advance in drone and missile technology, TurAF will get so many different platforms in the near future,
which will be able to perform CAS, CAP, SEAD and DEAD.
Maybe TurAF won`t be able to use and coordinate efficiently those platforms anymore, unlike the last few times.
So could a drone division ease the workload of TurAF?

 

[TheInsider]

I'm leaving a small bomb here. Turkish F-16s will have MUM-T capability Özgür capabilities are expanding but it probably won't be available initially. It might be introduced in FAZ-2 or FAZ-3. We have a good amount of 2-seat F-16s. This might be an insane capability uplift that no F-16 user can match as the US is not planning a MUM-T upgrade for F-16s.

 

[dBSPL]

I think we dont have any Aerobatic demonstration Team thread yet. But I couldn't not share this impressive announcement.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1652676451412463618

 

[TheInsider]

Surprise. I saw this photo released today and this immediately caught my eye. AESA IFF system similar to the one on the block 70 viper.

 

[Afif]

Okay, that is interesting. But I found it on older F16s blocks too.