TR Air Forces|News & Discussion

[Enderun]

The origin of the photo belongs to Mr Cem Doğut, I only changed the background.

 

[MADDOG]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1656048042535993358

 

[Ripley]

Could anyone please help me regarding Özgür F16?

I tried really hard to spot any distinctive features to distinguish Özgür F16s from any other in TurAF service (other than that horrible, outdated pixelated camo anppearance) and couldn’t find anything to that end.
Are there any and if so, could you kindly point out any eye catching glimpses to identify them?

 

[Baris]

Could anyone please help me regarding Özgür F16?

I tried really hard to spot any distinctive features to distinguish Özgür F16s from any other in TurAF service (other than that horrible, outdated pixelated camo anppearance) and couldn’t find anything to that end.
Are there any and if so, could you kindly point out any eye catching glimpses to identify them?

Most of the changes are related to what is inside the aircraft, not sure why you would expect the appaerance to change.

 

[Ripley]

Most of the changes are related to what is inside the aircraft, not sure why you would expect the appaerance to change.

i am aware of the integral EW suite and some avionic upgrades but was just wondering if some of the mentioned EW carried any visible structural extensions. Your answer to my question is no and that’s good enough for me. Thank you

 

[UcanTost]

Wasnt aesa radar part of the ozgur plan? When can we see it in the f16s?

 

[TheInsider]

Wasnt aesa radar part of the ozgur plan? When can we see it in the f16s?

This year. Probably in Q3 this year.

 

[Turan]

Wasnt aesa radar part of the ozgur plan? When can we see it in the f16s?

Afaik AESA radar wasnt part of the özgür project.

 

[dBSPL]

Flying Fortresses: TAF AEW&Cs

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1657460589881434112

The Airborne Warning Control Aircrafts, which took off from the 3rd Main Jet Base Command in Konya, performed a mission flight over Romania within the scope of NATO Assurance Measures.

 

[CAN_TR]

Flying Fortresses: TAF AEW&Cs

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1657460589881434112

The Airborne Warning Control Aircrafts, which took off from the 3rd Main Jet Base Command in Konya, performed a mission flight over Romania within the scope of NATO Assurance Measures.

Probably the best decision TuAF made the last five decades but also a mistake not to take the additional two.

 

[dBSPL]

Probably the best decision TuAF made the last five decades but also a mistake not to take the additional two.

Absolutely. The +2 option should have been used before the window of opportunity closed, and also we should had procured at least the same number of P-8 MPAs developed on the same 737NG. I think it is unlikely that we will see additional AEW-C aircraft for the next decade. My opinion on this issue is that all A330-200s in THY inventory should be given to the air force for MRTT conversion, but Aselsan should work on 2 of them as an AEW-C aircraft, even though it is wide-body aircraft.

For the next twenty years: additional AEW-C aircrafts with indigenous radar, long range MPAs and for multi-role tanker transport roles - Im just speculating numbers - there is a need for around 18-20 narrow and wide body aircraft. Even if we can handle the long-range MPA roles largely through drones, I think at least 10-12 aircraft will be needed.

As far as I know, there were some ideas to move forward through the cooperation between Aselsan and Antonov, but this has become quite difficult due to the current circumstances. Today, Kotil stated that TAI is preparing to put an airliner project with 60-80 seats and very low seat/flight cost on its agenda in the coming period. If we evaluate this kind of planning according to the current workload, I think it will take at least 10 years before it becomes a project and the aircraft can be produced. If there is no military priority here, it will probably take even more time to turn it into a extended range and a platform for use in military projects.

I believe that until we have our own aircraft, or until there is a co-production/under-licence production prepared with very good conditions, such platforms will continue to be in a very limited number in the TAF inventory. The younger generations are very lucky, because from the mid-2030s they will probably witness a period of expansion of the TAF.

 

[what]

F-4 ‘Terminator’ Phantoms Still Going Strong At Turkey’s Anatolian Eagle Exercise​

F-4 'Terminator' Phantoms Still Going Strong At Turkey's Anatolian Eagle Exercise

Turkey's latest Anatolian Eagle exercise provided a chance to look at the operations of the country's last F-4 Phantom IIs.

www.thedrive.com

Also tweet chain on F-4 and Anatolian Eagle exercise:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1659600581554585610

 

[Cenkcnk]

Even terminator himself can’t walk because he is too old but we still have to use them

 

[AzeriTank]

Could anyone please help me regarding Özgür F16?

I tried really hard to spot any distinctive features to distinguish Özgür F16s from any other in TurAF service (other than that horrible, outdated pixelated camo anppearance) and couldn’t find anything to that end.
Are there any and if so, could you kindly point out any eye catching glimpses to identify them?

seems like there is something different on the vertical wing, it looks different than others

 

[AzeriTank]

Absolutely. The +2 option should have been used before the window of opportunity closed, and also we should had procured at least the same number of P-8 MPAs developed on the same 737NG. I think it is unlikely that we will see additional AEW-C aircraft for the next decade. My opinion on this issue is that all A330-200s in THY inventory should be given to the air force for MRTT conversion, but Aselsan should work on 2 of them as an AEW-C aircraft, even though it is wide-body aircraft.

For the next twenty years: additional AEW-C aircrafts with indigenous radar, long range MPAs and for multi-role tanker transport roles - Im just speculating numbers - there is a need for around 18-20 narrow and wide body aircraft. Even if we can handle the long-range MPA roles largely through drones, I think at least 10-12 aircraft will be needed.

As far as I know, there were some ideas to move forward through the cooperation between Aselsan and Antonov, but this has become quite difficult due to the current circumstances. Today, Kotil stated that TAI is preparing to put an airliner project with 60-80 seats and very low seat/flight cost on its agenda in the coming period. If we evaluate this kind of planning according to the current workload, I think it will take at least 10 years before it becomes a project and the aircraft can be produced. If there is no military priority here, it will probably take even more time to turn it into a extended range and a platform for use in military projects.

I believe that until we have our own aircraft, or until there is a co-production/under-licence production prepared with very good conditions, such platforms will continue to be in a very limited number in the TAF inventory. The younger generations are very lucky, because from the mid-2030s they will probably witness a period of expansion of the TAF.

why not develop a fuel tanker out of anka-3 version? more stealth and diminish the probablity of getting shot down from long distances as they are less maneuver.. S400 is deisgned to shoot them first and Awacs

 

[dBSPL]

The signatures have been signed for the 4-seater training aircraft development project announced by Temel Kotil via the press on May 13.

THY ile TUSAŞ’tan 20 uçaklık anlaşma – Tolga Özbek

tolgaozbek.com

Thus, simultaneously with the helicopter division, TAI started to enter the civilian market with indigenously designed products in the fixed wing field.

Turkish Airlines has an ambitious expansion target in the 10-year projection and is already the airline with the most destinations in the world. This alone makes it one of the largest pilot employers in the world. It is estimated that there will be 11,000 pilots on board by 2033. In this context, TAFA (Turkish Airlines Aviation Academy) will become an important center in the coming period.

The reason why I shared this project within air force' thread is that this single-engine 4-seater new generation trainer could also be used for military purposes and pilot training. However, more importantly, TAI's roadmap is to start developing a 60-80 seat narrow body aircraft after this trainer. At this point, we can evaluate that the possibility of a domestically produced aircraft will now be a visible target in military mission profiles (MPA, Intelligence, early warning, etc.) where long-range versions of such platforms are used.

 

[Knowledgeseeker]

Turkey should cooperate with the Brazilians regarding the KC-390, or the Japanese with their C-2 transport aircraft. Turkey has a little over 1 million tons in strategic airlift capability. Should at least be able to double the capacity to around 2 million tons just like Germany, and France.

 

[dBSPL]

Happy 112 years, our steel claws, the apple of our eye.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1664166538507632640

 

[AzeriTank]

Turkey should cooperate with the Brazilians regarding the KC-390, or the Japanese with their C-2 transport aircraft. Turkey has a little over 1 million tons in strategic airlift capability. Should at least be able to double the capacity to around 2 million tons just like Germany, and France.

the thing is Turkey doesnt have much money as its all put for local production. Turkey could easily Turn TF35000 engine into turo prob and make its own around 2030. For now, Turkey use friend countries air lift capabilties, which one of them is Azerbaijan and Azerbaijan spent a lot on it.

 

[Knowledgeseeker]

the thing is Turkey doesnt have much money as its all put for local production. Turkey could easily Turn TF35000 engine into turo prob and make its own around 2030. For now, Turkey use friend countries air lift capabilties, which one of them is Azerbaijan and Azerbaijan spent a lot on it.

I dont know if Turkey has involved itself in the past when it comes to producing strategic air lifters however if they have not then a procurement with a production of a high localization rate could be a good start since TAI is fully booked with so many development projects and deliveries.