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[Tuvan]

Rüstung: Bundesregierung stoppt Eurofighter-Export an die Türkei

Die türkische Luftwaffe will mit dem Eurofighter ihre Kampfjet-Flotte modernisieren. Die Briten wollen liefern, doch die geschäftsführende Bundesregierung sperrt sich. Das könnte zum ersten Testfall für Rot-Grün werden.

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Alman hükümeti Türkiye'ye Eurofighter satışını veto etti – DW – 18.04.2025

Handelsblatt gazetesi, İmamoğlu'nun tutuklanması nedeniyle Alman hükümetinin Türkiye'ye Eurofighter tipi savaş uçaklarının satışını engellediğini yazdı.

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Alman basını: Hükûmet, İmamoğlu'nun tutuklanması gerekçesiyle Türkiye'ye Eurofighter satışını engelledi | T24

Alman basını: Hükûmet, İmamoğlu'nun tutuklanması gerekçesiyle Türkiye'ye Eurofighter satışını engelledi

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Germany vetoed Turkiye's Eurofighter acquisition amidst arrest of Ekrem Imamoglu

German government is changing in May 6 so they might change their policy again. I don't know

 

[Costin1984]

Rüstung: Bundesregierung stoppt Eurofighter-Export an die Türkei

Die türkische Luftwaffe will mit dem Eurofighter ihre Kampfjet-Flotte modernisieren. Die Briten wollen liefern, doch die geschäftsführende Bundesregierung sperrt sich. Das könnte zum ersten Testfall für Rot-Grün werden.

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Alman basını: Hükûmet, İmamoğlu'nun tutuklanması gerekçesiyle Türkiye'ye Eurofighter satışını engelledi | T24

Alman basını: Hükûmet, İmamoğlu'nun tutuklanması gerekçesiyle Türkiye'ye Eurofighter satışını engelledi

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Germany vetoed Turkiye's Eurofighter acquisition amidst arrest of Ekrem Imamoglu

German government is changing in May 6 so they might change their policy again. I don't know

They still need the SDP and the Greens in the new ruling coalition.

 

[Pokemonte13]

They still need the SDP and the Greens in the new ruling coalition.

Actually just spd and cdu they needed the greens for a constitutional change (debt brake) not for government

 

[Spitfire9]

I wonder what would have happened if we hadn't rejected the KC-390 joint design and production offer years ago.

Looking at the rapid increase in C-390 customers recently, that looks like a big mistake.

Is Turkiye in the market to buy some soon? Embraer talks of a possible 3 more customers being lined up.

 

[Spitfire9]

They still need the SDP and the Greens in the new ruling coalition.

An anti-democrat leading a democracy arrests his political rival. A democratic country chooses to embargo arms to that country suppressing its own democracy. Until things change Turkish air force will get no Eurofighters.

UK needs an order for Eurofighter to keep its assembly plant alive. Not the case for Germany.

Back to ordering F-16 for Turkiye or is the goal of despotism in their country - shared by Trump and Erdogan - enough to unlock F-35?

 

[Strong AI]

An anti-democrat leading a democracy arrests his political rival. A democratic country chooses to embargo arms to that country suppressing its own democracy. Until things change Turkish air force will get no Eurofighters.

Did you tell that to KSA too?

 

[Sanchez]

Did you tell that to KSA too?

If we shoot 100 billion tomorrow to fund German businesses, have a nice working relationship with Israel and no issues with Greece on Greece's terms, I'm sure they will listen to us closely. We are not KSA. We can't afford to be KSA.

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different outcome. This is insane.

 

[Strong AI]

If we shoot 100 billion tomorrow to fund German businesses, have a nice working relationship with Israel and no issues with Greece on Greece's terms, I'm sure they will listen to us closely. We are not KSA. We can't afford to be KSA.

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different outcome. This is insane.

I just want to point out that their reason is not Ekrem, it is their excuse. Two different things. Of course the question is if it is smart to give them those excuses, like the S400 for example?

 

[Spitfire9]

Did you tell that to KSA too?

I would have.

 

[Barry]

Throwing stones in glass houses, tbh.

 

[Spitfire9]

Throwing stones in glass houses, tbh.

Sure. The EU countries are known for locking up politicians, making expressions of opposition to the government by the people illegal, muzzling or controlling the media, arresting journalists etc, so what right do EU countries have to oppose similar tyranny in Turkiye?

 

[Zoth]

Sure. The EU countries are known for locking up politicians, making expressions of opposition to the government by the people illegal, muzzling or controlling the media, arresting journalists etc, so what right do EU countries have to oppose similar tyranny in Turkiye?

You don't even realise how hypocritical you sound with this take, that's all i gotta say.

 

[uçuyorum]

If we shoot 100 billion tomorrow to fund German businesses, have a nice working relationship with Israel and no issues with Greece on Greece's terms, I'm sure they will listen to us closely. We are not KSA. We can't afford to be KSA.

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different outcome. This is insane.

We could have afforded, we chose to waste money other things, we can blow 50 billion when we want.

 

[Mayday!]

Germany, who sees Türkiye as an enemy for the sake of a thief and his gang. I hope Russia comes after you.

 

[Barry]

Sure. The EU countries are known for locking up politicians, making expressions of opposition to the government by the people illegal, muzzling or controlling the media, arresting journalists etc, so what right do EU countries have to oppose similar tyranny in Turkiye?

I've got a different perspective coming from a people that's been continually shit on by Europe for daring to survive ethnic cleansing and the following decades of white Europe telling us we're not allowed self-determination unless we submit our rights, equality and lives to our former genocidal neighbours. Still waiting for the promises of lifting their inhumane isolation for doing EVERYTHING that they wanted of us, but still telling us to go kick rocks.

 

[Pokemonte13]

Sure. The EU countries are known for locking up politicians, making expressions of opposition to the government by the people illegal, muzzling or controlling the media, arresting journalists etc, so what right do EU countries have to oppose similar tyranny in Turkiye?

To be fair Marie le pen also was arrested but I guess that’s justified because it’s in France and don’t get me wrong there are massive deficits in the Turkish judiciary but what’s the point of arresting your biggest opponent but not meddling in the elections. And some of the accusations against imamoglu are somewhat credible with his diploma being (fake) /(chp and akp are corrupt but akp at least gets something done)

 

[Oublious]

Sure. The EU countries are known for locking up politicians, making expressions of opposition to the government by the people illegal, muzzling or controlling the media, arresting journalists etc, so what right do EU countries have to oppose similar tyranny in Turkiye?

lol

How about israel?

 

[mTT]

lol

How about israel?

democracy, freedom

Spoiler: ....

uh sorry just MONEY

MONEY > democracy+freedom

 

[Spitfire9]

lol

How about israel?

Indeed. Responsible for appalling injustices and war crimes. I find it shameful that the European countries criticise it so little and take even less action against it.

 

[RMZN]

Indeed. Responsible for appalling injustices and war crimes. I find it shameful that the European countries criticise it so little and take even less action against it.

They do take action, its just that those actions are to enable israel and not hamper its genocidal and expansionist tendencies.

Bottom line is that at the end of the day the Germans have the stronger negotiating position and can do as they want. Imamoglus arrest hast no been of service to Turkish national interest whatsoever and it was entirely predictable that the German government would act in this way. Erdogan practically gave them the best excuse to halt the sale without having to face pressure by the other consortium members.