It took Aselsan a decade to create the Özgür suite. Aselsan had worked on F-16 for 20 years before that. That is a very tall order and EW integration would also be very hard, for starters, noone is opening up the radar to us.
I really doubt that. EF employees will be present in Ankara for years. Unit level maintenance is easy, depot level maintenance will take years.
I still don't think that 120 months have already started.
Bro, EW/ECM will probably not be needed as ECRS-MK2 Aesa radar comes with the latest version of these. But should the need arise having developed similar systems for KAAN will allow us to integrate a version of it to this plane and it shouldn’t really take that long. We don’t need to discover Americas again. This is never going to be an as extensive project as Ozgur 1&2.
Hard reality
İts not others foult , we have since 2012 with ÖZGÜR project and nothing until now . Now all major projects have been come together to produce from Land projevts like Altay , İFV apc to Navy ones İstanbul class , Tf 2000 , milden and air forve with steath drones , Kaan Özgür . Now with all this projects we will delay alot of them or we gonna crash , economically its impossible , We are not USA or China .
Also a lot of engineers are leaving for countries that will pay them more. Erdoğan is also really pissing off youth for a variety of reasons, so not only is there financial issues but there also may be lack of staff to run all projects at full speed as a lot of quality people are leaving. Not helping at all that in this heated neighborhood, instead if calling for unity Erdoğan has pointed the barrel at the opposition, arrested two major figures and countless others whilst he continues to allow a stream of CIA/MOSSAD assets to leak through the border.
well jf 17 is a pakistani jet as much as it is a chinese jet engines avionics ect are sourced from china not that we would even consider it.
US didn't lie. They clearly told us what would happen. Erdogan government thought they were bluffing so they called the bluff and we were met with CAATSA and being booted from F-35.
We never asked for Rafales.
We never asked for Gripens either. But they did help get TF-X start off in 2013.
This is true.
Biden government spent more than a year to move the congress to okay the F-16 sale, and congress did okay it. F-16 sale is done, turns out it is the Turkish side that is moving the goal posts with other demands.
Kinda sad for the airforce no new fighter jets in 17 years (2011-2028) at least coming decade looks very promising
If it can come, that is.
That is just nonsense. Even if we purchased everything in that 20 billion agreement it is nothing but a drop in the bucket for the US. And that is just their public budget.
Where on earth are you getting that number from??? We already know the exact deal submitted and approved by the US Congress and even with 40 planes, 80 upgrade kits, fuck ton of spare parts and munitions it was 20 something billion.
They didn't come up with a reason to stop the F-35, our government gave them a proper reason and had plenty of warning beforehand.
It *is* going to get into our inventory in 2030s, we already know this. Just this summer there have been multiple mentions of 2032 with domestic engine at earliest iirc.
The initial deal was around 40 F16s and 79 modernisation kits from the US for its already existing F16s valued at nearly ~50 billion dollars (if i remember right). Turkey then reduced it to around 40 jets to concentrate on its Ozgur program. Now, Turkey wants to reduce it even more
The main OFFICIAL reason for the CAATSA sancyion imposed on Turkey was that the S400 is detrimental to the US since the S400 can steal valuable data from the F35
Some TAI officials did state that the first 4.5 KAAN will be made available to the TAF by the end of 2028/early 2029. I just posted that a portion of the officials in the govt dont believe that it is feasible
I'm sorry but, lmfao. You are taking what Trump says seriously? That is absolutely hilarious. His brain is melting at this point and he has no idea what he is talking about, at all. And Lindsay Graham is an arse licker who would say anything to look tough, or, make Trump look tough. F-35 to India was nothing but Trump bullshitting, again, since nothing even remotely official happened there. Seriously, Trump's brain is mush, stop taking him seriously.
I don't think this is as big of a leverage as it's made out to be. TK for decades have run a dual fleet of European and American aircraft. It's a doubling of the fleet to get better deals from manufacturers and to make sure in the event of a crisis, portion of the fleet can run regardless, be it systematic issues, maintenance issues etc.
