TR Altay Main Battle Tank & Related Programs

[Sanchez]

Has there been any mention of a "roof armour upgrade"? Or jammer or Sarp anti drone capability?

Nope. And Sarp anti drone capability is nothing more than a plan for now. Also no jammers and no anti drone capability for Akkor so far.

 

[boredaf]

Nope. And Sarp anti drone capability is nothing more than a plan for now. Also no jammers and no anti drone capability for Akkor so far.

Akkor anti drone would be a waste because I've seen both Ukraine and Russia send multiple drones to kill tanks and it has, what, 4 or 6 charges?

 

[Sanchez]

Akkor anti drone would be a waste because I've seen both Ukraine and Russia send multiple drones to kill tanks and it has, what, 4 or 6 charges?

Still better than losing a tank to a drone though. RCWS are very light skinned, they won't survive long in an open war, so we can't expect them to take over the anti drone duties.

 

[boredaf]

Still better than losing a tank to a drone though. RCWS are very light skinned, they won't survive long in an open war, so we can't expect them to take over the anti drone duties.

But you'll lose it, that is my point. From the photos it looks like it has 4 charges, all an enemy would have to do is to send 6 drones and I have seen tanks getting hit with multiple drones. With RCWS, or rather a proper CIWS like system that is automated like that, you can at least hunt them at a greater range rather than waiting until they are on top of you.

 

[Radko]

Nope. And Sarp anti drone capability is nothing more than a plan for now. Also no jammers and no anti drone capability for Akkor so far.

ASELSAN has a video in their YouTube channel, featuring Sarp w/Anti Drone. I am too busy to find it rn

 

[Tornadoss]

Add Aselsan Sahin with autonomous capability behind Altay, like crocodile and you are good to go

 

[Saithan]

Add Aselsan Sahin with autonomous capability behind Altay, like crocodile and you are good to go

This is a good solution and I thought about it as well. It looks like a 40-60mm pellet round for an effective range of 0-200m maybe less, not sure.

 

[Strong AI]

This is a good solution and I thought about it as well. It looks like a 40-60mm pellet round for an effective range of 0-200m maybe less, not sure.

700 m

ŞAHİN 130/40GL - ASELSAN

www.aselsan.com

 

[mTT]

This is a good solution and I thought about it as well. It looks like a 40-60mm pellet round for an effective range of 0-200m maybe less, not sure.

Ammunition ATOM 40 mm ABM (Air Burst Munition)

They use the same ammunition.

 

[Saithan]

Yes, I can see that and the range is pretty decent. Only thing to worry about is it has ammunition enough to deal with a swarm of drones.

 

[Anastasius]

Flak guns making a comeback as a counter for drones. Funny how life works sometimes.

 

[mTT]

Flak guns making a comeback as a counter for drones. Funny how life works sometimes.

 

[boredaf]

Şahin weighs 2 or 3 tons, it is not a feasible solution as a whole. Maybe as a system that is mounted on the tank with 2 or whatever belt fed launchers.

Or, a higher calibre gun 20/30/whatever with ATOM airburst smart munition. This is, imo, the best solution as the speed of the bullets far higher than the grenades, naturally, giving the drone less time to fly away; and whole system would weigh far less and would potentially be easier to adapt.

 

[Tornadoss]

Şahin weighs 2 or 3 tons, it is not a feasible solution as a whole. Maybe as a system that is mounted on the tank with 2 or whatever belt fed launchers.

Or, a higher calibre gun 20/30/whatever with ATOM airburst smart munition. This is, imo, the best solution as the speed of the bullets far higher than the grenades, naturally, giving the drone less time to fly away; and whole system would weigh far less and would potentially be easier to adapt.

or you can also couple a ACV or UGV with Sahin coupled with Altay.

 

[Strong AI]

Şahin weighs 2 or 3 tons, it is not a feasible solution as a whole. Maybe as a system that is mounted on the tank with 2 or whatever belt fed launchers.

Or, a higher calibre gun 20/30/whatever with ATOM airburst smart munition. This is, imo, the best solution as the speed of the bullets far higher than the grenades, naturally, giving the drone less time to fly away; and whole system would weigh far less and would potentially be easier to adapt.

I think Korkut-25 integrated into the Akkor system would be the best solution. But i wonder if Akkor's radars can be used for this purpose?

Aselsan's Korkut-25. Looks like radars all around on a telescopic mast and an attachment for munition programming. Very interesting.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1848275562634100890

 

[boredaf]

I think Korkut-25 integrated into the Akkor system would be the best solution. But i wonder if Akkor's radars can be used for this purpose?

This could be it, or, Venom LR as it can be used with mounts for 12.7 mm machine guns, so, the mount itself wouldn't be as heavy; Sarp 25mm weighs around a ton, for example, while Sarp mounts for 12.7 mm weigh 200 or 300 kg, that's a big difference.

And, would Akkor radars even have a range, let's say, 1 km to give the gun a proper chance? Or, could they be changed, or can a new set of radars added?

or you can also couple a ACV or UGV with Sahin coupled with Altay.

Best case scenario is to always have some anti-air element to cover the tanks, of course, but it is still necessary for the tank to defend itself.