TR Altay Main Battle Tank & Related Programs

[Kartal1]

I hope they aslo adds some protection at tracks so will look better and protected

This is a video showcasing only the turret, but a different modernization package is developed that also adds skirts.

 

[Afif]

Excellent turret, a capable gun and superb sensors.

But the chassis, new paint job can't hide it anymore.

I can hear its plea loud and clear-
"Please put that turret on some youngling. (Kaplan, Tuplar or whatever.) And just let me rest in peace this time."

 

[Radko]

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Excellent turret, a capable gun and superb sensors.

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But the chassis, new paint job can't hide it anymore.

I can hear its plea loud and clear-
"Please put that turret on some youngling. (Kaplan, Tuplar or whatever.) And just let me rest in peace this time."

they are not suitable

 

[boredaf]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1765796446765244922

Now, we just need to develop a guided 105mm munition that we can use from this turret to give M60s a new life.

Then, we should develop a light tank that'll exchange heavy armour for mobility and a focus on new active protection systems like CIWS and jammers. While heavy tanks like Altay will always remain at the heart of armoured warfare, light tanks, imo, will be invaluable with their ability to swiftly shoot and scoot, which guided munitions will also help.

 

[Merzifonlu]

There is only one thing I wonder: Since it is an automatic loader, what will prevent the ammunition that is hit from exploding and losing all personnel at once, as seen in Russian tin cans? What precautions were taken against this situation?

 

[Huelague]

This is a video showcasing only the turret, but a different modernization package is developed that also adds skirts.

Look at modern tanks. Turrent is wide as chassis is, for better protection.

 

[Heartbang]

Since it is an automatic loader, what will prevent the ammunition that is hit from exploding and losing all personnel at once, as seen in Russian tin cans?

Autoloader isn't the problem with Russian tanks, its the location of the ammo. Since the ammo sits way down under the turret basket and under the poor crew, they can't properly isolate them into a safe storage space.

French Leclerc tanks also have autoloaders, but the ammo sits in a sealed compartment on the back of a turret.

In case of a hit, the ammo cooks off behind a sealed door. Like so:

 

[Bogeyman]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1766045190693835131

Performance of ROKETSAN's ERA blocks

 

[Radko]

blowout panels. but not even they guarantee defense against a jack in the box, challies got jacked when blowouts failed afaik in ukraine. challies don't even have an autoloader but it still got a turret blown up to the high heavens. ammo explosion is always a possibility with or without autoloaders.

i dunno if the MZK has blowouts tho'.

Challenger's dont have blowout panels

 

[Kartal1]

 

[Hepdert]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1768585599303225834

 

[infrared]

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[Radko]

Building mbt test field next to MMU building within Tusaş does not make sense to me but maybe someone here has an explanation to this claim:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1768993613650743742

Kazan is now a industrial complex mostly producing for defence companies. BMC chose Kazan for their new factory

 

[infrared]

Building mbt test field next to MMU building within Tusaş does not make sense to me but maybe someone here has an explanation to this claim:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1768993613650743742

It actually may be valid (though it still does not make sense to me to build both MMU and Altay factories within a km to each other).

Check out the link below saying "Kahramankazan facilities next to TUSAŞ are being built."

BMC Savunma, Yeni ALTAY Tankını ve Arifiye Tesislerini Sektör Basınına Tanıttı | savunmahaber.com

BMC CEO’su Murat Yalçıntaş: “Bundan Sonra Kamuoyunda, ‘BMC’ Adının ‘Güvenle’ Birlikte Anılmasını Hedefliyoruz.” BMC Savunma, başta ALTAY ana muharebe tankı olmak üzere geliştirdiği yeni nesil…

www.savunmahaber.com

 

[Radko]

It actually may be valid (though it still does not make sense to me to build both MMU and Altay factories within a km to each other).

Check out the link below saying "Kahramankazan facilities next to TUSAŞ are being built."

BMC Savunma, Yeni ALTAY Tankını ve Arifiye Tesislerini Sektör Basınına Tanıttı | savunmahaber.com

BMC CEO’su Murat Yalçıntaş: “Bundan Sonra Kamuoyunda, ‘BMC’ Adının ‘Güvenle’ Birlikte Anılmasını Hedefliyoruz.” BMC Savunma, başta ALTAY ana muharebe tankı olmak üzere geliştirdiği yeni nesil…

www.savunmahaber.com

well that is how it is, possibly better logistics

 

[CAN_TR]

Might be logistics but i guess it's more for protection, since Ankara has the strategic depht and will probably be the best defended (air defence) region in Türkiye

 

[begturan]

well that is how it is, possibly better logistics

The most delayed project in our defense industry was Altay, but I am absolutely happy with this delay. Since Altay project start we saw a lot of battle and we learn lessons from them in this way we upgrade our MBT according to new threats. But regarding tank ammunition I have only heard of the Tanok and HE-T projects which Turkey is very deficient.... our armour penetrating capability is low as i know especiallly considering MKE sabot ammunutions, Is there any ongoing projects regarding 120 mm or 105 mm ?

 

[Rodeo]

"Our work on ALTAY continues. Only the work on the power group continues. There is no other problem. A total of 250 ALTAY units will be supplied. We will produce 85 of them with Korean powerpack and 165 with our own power group."

— Yaşar Güler | Minister of National Defense

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1786070462868365782

 

[UcanTost]

"Our work on ALTAY continues. Only the work on the power group continues. There is no other problem. A total of 250 ALTAY units will be supplied. We will produce 85 of them with Korean powerpack and 165 with our own power group."

— Yaşar Güler | Minister of National Defense

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1786070462868365782

Too much shit on the turret. No rear/up coverage for aps?

 

[UcanTost]

aren't all modern tanks full of shit on their turret? RCWS, smokes, optics, countermeasures of all kinds, shit adds up.

Not like this. Very exposed to light arms