TR Altay Main Battle Tank & Related Programs
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The most delayed project in our defense industry was Altay, but I am absolutely happy with this delay. Since Altay project start we saw a lot of battle and we learn lessons from them in this way we upgrade our MBT according to new threats. But regarding tank ammunition I have only heard of the Tanok and HE-T projects which Turkey is very deficient.... our armour penetrating capability is low as i know especiallly considering MKE sabot ammunutions, Is there any ongoing projects regarding 120 mm or 105 mm ?
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"Our work on ALTAY continues. Only the work on the power group continues. There is no other problem. A total of 250 ALTAY units will be supplied. We will produce 85 of them with Korean powerpack and 165 with our own power group."
— Yaşar Güler | Minister of National Defense
— Yaşar Güler | Minister of National Defense
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Too much shit on the turret. No rear/up coverage for aps?
Not like this. Very exposed to light arms
huh? have you seen other tanks with APS and RCWS? Altay turret looks much better when compared to Abrams and Leopard with Trophy radars heavily sticking out of the turret.
Compare to next gen tanks. Altay is way too late. Dont even understand why they still want it, or do they?
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Yes, in the current configuration it is obsolete.
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Altay in its current configuration is still very much a relevant platform. We really need to stop saying it is/will be obsolete.
What revolution next gen design that people think would brink?
it is feasable to upgrade T1 with RF Jammer, as well as with some networking with APS radars/off board sensors the RCWS can be cued to engage uavs.
What revolution next gen design that people think would brink?
it is feasable to upgrade T1 with RF Jammer, as well as with some networking with APS radars/off board sensors the RCWS can be cued to engage uavs.
what next gen tanks?
US and rest of NATO don't even produce new tanks from scratch and just continuously upgrading their current fleet , Altay is still very much equivalent to the new M1A2 Abrams SEP V4, Leopard 2A8, and Challenger 3.
The only major development in next gen tanks might come from Korea, the K3, which is still in a very early concept form, the only major development in next gen tanks is moving the crew into an isolated capsule to improved crew survivability and making the turret unmanned, similar to what Russians did in T-14.
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However in both Leopard and Abrams the APS is added to the current turret. Altay is designed from beginning to have the APS.
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We talk about updated/upgraded or obsoleted tank. Before we start to talk about a “modern tank”, we must clarify what we understand or what are challenges and requirements of a tank is, in a modern and challenging (asymmetrically) battlefield.
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We talked about the same topic back in page 140. I don’t think there’s much to add to everyone’s points about it for now. You can add increased slat armor, jammers and more capable APS. It’s still the same MBT concept. Because an MBT is already a compromise on firepower, armor and speed. Move the sliders around as long as you wish. You’ll always need all those three to move forward behind enemy lines.
Altay can be updated and will be updated. But an Altay with high speed, good armor and good firepower will never be obsolete, as we are still using M48s.
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We can see the implementation of a cope cage for the first time on TSK tanks in this video.
I wonder why only two tanks had that?
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Good catch, I only noticed two in a different frame. Still doubt the effectiveness of this "solution" but people in charge would know more than me, obviously.
I think the future of MBTs will be going the way of landships, not as heavy as those from WWI and WWII of course they were ridiculous, capable of actively protecting themselves with things like multiple CIWS and jammers. And, light tanks to compliment IFVs in fast hit & run attacks.
Defense Industry President Haluk Görgün
"Altay tank is going into mass production."
