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It is good to know that things are progressing. But wasn’t Hurjet going to fly in 2022 ? It seems it is delayed a bit!
ATAK2‘s maiden flight has been pulled forward, from 2024 to 2023. But in honesty, I had rather it was the other way round.
Atak2 is going to be definitely a monstrous helicopter. But unless we have an indigenous engine in the 3000hp range we will have similar problems we are having with the t-129 Pakistani order. 2023 first flight means serial production in 2025. There is no way TEI will have an indigenous engine by that time for this helicopter. TS1400 will be ready. But it is not powerful enough. Neither is the t700-TEI-701D they are building for the Blackhawks.
Same is true for the Hurjet too. If we try to sell it, I wonder if GE/US will allow it? Even worse If Caatsa is in place we may not even get the engines for our own use!
If they had produced Hurjet as it was originally designed with twin engines, TEI could have built a 9500lbf thrust turbofan engines from the TS1400 core, to be ready by 2025.
 

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ATAK-2 (10ton) for Navy, Land Forces and Gendarmerie
This means there will be navalised versions of it. That is very good news! TCG Anadolu will have good attack heli’s on its deck.
I only hope that Roketsan will also develop for these helicopters, an anti ship missile that is better than the penguins we had with a range of 50-100km.
This can be done by using the new tj300 engine on a mini Atmaca.
 
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tS1400 turboshaft engine has ben accepted by Tusas to go on to T625 Gökbey. (See after 20.00)
 

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Minister Akar was also mad. It is not easy to bring things together for a live stream but a few heads can roll justifiably if there is a purposeful action.

My heart goes to the whole team working for this dream to come true.
 
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Minister Akar was also mad. It is not easy to bring things together for a live stream but a few heads can roll justifiably if there is a purposeful action.

My heart goes to the whole team working for this dream to come true.
What happend though? It's just some technical issues and video-feed delay as usual right? Nothing to be mad about..
 

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Akşit mad at 19:40
Putting engineers under pressure was never a good idea, and using all that for propaganda. We have seen how it ended in Devrim arabaları example. Under pressure, human is prone to make error, oversee some details and skip some crucial steps.
Airing such a test live, was another
Yeah! Somebody in the crowd apparently shouted that the engine not working! But yet it clearly was!
"Devrim arabaları" there could be some other to shout and follow him and we would see hope of engineers and TAI is being crushed so that someone else can take turbine development project over. Guess who has spoken about engines a few days ago except TAI?
 

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Some people are perfectionists.
Some people doesn't have empathy on them; people working on such projects, they don't work 9-5 they spend nights in there ,at labs, on simulations just to see something working. They deserve to appreciated, not cursed just because engine didn't turn on time, now someone will mob at them because of their "incompetence" at the show, without appreciating their work. This breaks people's hope and enthusiasm.
And then someone comes, asking them to air their test live at erdogan's speech, now they don't only need to prepare for the test which is troublesome and takes time, but also should be synced with Erdogan's speech.
Was never a good idea, will never be.
 

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Instead off screaming "sayin Cumhurbaskanim..." all the time like an cringe fangirl you've could motivated the technicians somehow or wait until the engine is running, it's nothing you can fix with a button and cursing or getting mad doesn't help either.
 

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Instead off screaming "sayin Cumhurbaskanim..." all the time like an cringe fangirl you've could motivated the technicians somehow or wait until the engine is running, it's nothing you can fix with a button and cursing or getting mad doesn't help either.
Mr. Varank called it a jet engine. OMG
 

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There is always the possibility of some gangsters trying to give signals that they are not dead yet, you never know. Sincere people's failures are always tolerable as long as they are proven sincere.
 

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There is always the possibility of some gangsters trying to give signals that they are not dead yet, you never know. Sincere people's failures are always tolerable as long as they are proven sincere.
And they will wait for Erdogan's speech to sabotage instead of revealing themselves before the product goes into serial production? Doesn't make sense.
A true gangster would wait to the last moment to cause more damage.
It just wrong doing of TEI Manager calling it sabotage and such, ordering those hardworking people to do "their work right" while in the first place he is the one not doing his job right. While in fact he should have been encouraging them at their good work and asking a few minutes from the audience for the preps, to signal the job is hard indeed, if Akar hasn't poked him he dared to speak even more, to curse more!
 
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Production team/event organizers (No relation to TEI) said engine didn't work, why we can even hear their voices in the background is a question. Engine did work. Very fishy, event organizers should be investigated

Fishy indeed. Turkey still has lots of people with inferiority complex or have outright contempt towards any progress in Turkey. Let them boil in their anger and jealousy..
 

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The problem is not about engineers but some guys from production who said “Engine didn’t work” (3-4 times) during live broadcast. The reaction of TEI manager with “sabotage” words is about them who was filming and speaking during live broadcast. He tried to protect the efforts of our proud engineers with his reaction. If the men in control room said it deliberately, It is certainly a sabotage.
 

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And they will wait for Erdogan's speech to sabotage instead of revealing themselves before the product goes into serial production? Doesn't make sense.
A true gangster would wait to the last moment to cause more damage.
It just wrong doing of TEI Manager calling it sabotage and such, ordering those hardworking people to do "their work right" while in the first place he is the one not doing his job right. While in fact he should have been encouraging them at their good work and asking a few minutes from the audience for the preps, to signal the job is hard indeed, if Akar hasn't poked him he dared to speak even more, to curse more!
They don't need to do too much damage, they are just signaling their gang members.
Akar also repeated sabotage, we won't let them get away with it.

Actually I don't really care. When energy peaks somewhere friction can happen.
Erdoğan called for applause, that is what matters.
 

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Production team/event organizers (No relation to TEI) said engine didn't work, why we can even hear their voices in the background is a question. Engine did work. Very fishy, production company should be investigated


When I watched this, I realized that the engine was ignited and engineers increased power up to the planned RPM but the production didn’t give the sound of engine and all delegation didn’t even realize the working engine. That’s the reason Erdoğan asked again to start ignition while engine was running. What we saw was the faces of test crew wth speeches like “engine didn’t work” from production crew. Really wierd things are happening.
 

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