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Should be possible physically. Wildcat has it.Is putting machine guns on sides also an option? Shouldn't be too difficult if needed right? I wonder if 12.7 or even Venom LR would be possible, would be interesting
It seems like we have everything needed to make a wildcat except seaspray radar. We have the heli of same weight and size, we have engines of same power level in fact aren't they same engines on first 3 ? We have the ASELFLIR400D for electro optics, we have Kuzgun TJ instead of Sea Venom, we have dipping sonar, we are making lightweight torpedo. It seems we just need to make helva?Should be possible physically. Wildcat has it.
It seems to be heading this way. T925 is not possible for frigates. Unless we get more Seahawks, it'll be T625 for the navy. Ant it will have to be a specialized version as well.It seems like we have everything needed to make a wildcat except seaspray radar. We have the heli of same weight and size, we have engines of same power level in fact aren't they same engines on first 3 ? We have the ASELFLIR400D for electro optics, we have Kuzgun TJ instead of Sea Venom, we have dipping sonar, we are making lightweight torpedo. It seems we just need to make helva?
T629 mock up Tusas has shown before looked nothing like Gökbey, it was much slimmer. They must've scrapped that idea altogether or change its name afterwards.
Following the successful entry into service of GÖKBEY, it is expected that the T629 (ATAK 1.5), which will have the same engines, transmission and rotary assembly as GÖKBEY, but will be an armed version of it, will also be on the agenda. If this happens, the remaining T129 ATAK order can be converted to the T629, and the embargo-related problems currently experienced with the ATAK helicopter, as well as the helicopter's technical capabilities, can be solved with a 6-ton class indigenous armed helicopter with a higher payload capacity and slightly more powerful engines.
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I talked about this possibility years ago. Looks like it might happen.
T625 does not fullfill the gap of Seahawks. May tow dipping sonar around, but carrying LWT, Missiles etc, fitting consoles inside will not be possible. Also bare in mind that necessity for extra power to land on rogue seas, sturdy landing gears, hook mechanism etc will add additional weight.It seems to be heading this way. T925 is not possible for frigates. Unless we get more Seahawks, it'll be T625 for the navy. Ant it will have to be a specialized version as well.
Specialized naval helis are damn expensive and are very complex. It'll be a hard task.
Per Sünnetçi, first 3 for gendarme will be powered by the T800, while for the second batch of 17 they are planning to use the TS1400, which is not yet certified. I think we won't see the second batch for at least a year after the first 3 are delivered. So it's good news, but also bad news.
Unless a T725 is coming, it'll either be more Seahawks or T625. Wildcat, which is at a similar weight has a fixed aesa radar, can carry torpedos, sonobuoys, 20 Martlet LMMs etc. It's also powered by the same engine we have on T129, which we want our own engine for T625 to match.T625 does not fullfill the gap of Seahawks. May tow dipping sonar around, but carrying LWT, Missiles etc, fitting consoles inside will not be possible. Also bare in mind that necessity for extra power to land on rogue seas, sturdy landing gears, hook mechanism etc will add additional weight.
It may however serve duty but definitely not not replacing Seahawks, it will be a downgrade. Moreover, i doubt if Navy will continue using the helicopters for deploying dipping sonars (possible to be replaced by USVs).
Helicopters like Seahawks for combatant vessels are essentially what gives them top end destructive assault capability when it comes to ASW , ASUW and EW. As mentioned by @Anmdt , as well as their electronics and EW suites, their missile and light torpedo carrying capabilities et al are all vital for the ships.Unless a T725 is coming, it'll either be more Seahawks or T625. Wildcat, which is at a similar weight has a fixed aesa radar, can carry torpedos, sonobuoys, 20 Martlet LMMs etc. It's also powered by the same engine we have on T129, which we want our own engine for T625 to match.
Unless they are thinking more Seahawks will be delivered when we ask for them, it will have to be T625. T925 being this big is also somewhat related to the navy as Kotil said. They can't have their cake and eat it too, a lighter AW101 will never work on frigates, going by dimensions it was never even planned to be used on frigates.
And I really don't see us ordering more Seahawks and US accepting it anytime soon. Another blunder on procurement planning by SSM and MSB? Very much possible. In that case, they'll either slim the T925, or go with T625 anyhow.
T629 is a greedy project that should not be exist.We are not US or China.Why do we have 3 attack helicopter projects at the same time.Saffet Uyanık says as there are issues with procuring sufficient numbers of engines from Ukraine for T925/T929, T629 development will be accelerated. T925 will be going forward while T929 will be on the backburner.
There's no reason for them to do that unless they plan to adopt the T925 for the naval/ASW use.T925 will be going forward while T929 will be on the backburner.
In my opinion, T625, T629 and T925 will all be navalized. DzKK needs all three for different roles.There's no reason for them to do that unless they plan to adopt the T925 for the naval/ASW use.
This confuses me because everyone who saw the T925 says its absolutely MASSIVE and will possibly have fitment issues in the ship hangars.
Well yeah, but as you'd know, the need for Seahawk's are rather urgent.In my opinion, T625, T629 and T925 will all be navalized. DzKK needs all three for different roles.
T629 is a greedy project that should not be exist.We are not US or China.Why do we have 3 attack helicopter projects at the same time.
Saffet Uyanık says as there are issues with procuring sufficient numbers of engines from Ukraine for T925/T929, T629 development will be accelerated. T925 will be going forward while T929 will be on the backburner.
They had the same TV3-117 for their Mi-28 didn't them?Do Russians have suitable engines for the T929, perhaps they do.