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Funny how this Maximilian guy always jumps out of his hole when there are negative news for the Turks in this war. He is completely invisible when we are steamrolling the Armenians.


He is free to post it. Both sides of the conflict should be shown here.
 

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Just curious, do you think the entire genocide never happened and the whole story was concocted by the Armanians ?

Genocide is a slippery slope you can apply genocide to every massacre or deportation in history.

I dont believe its a genocide more like a massacre that happened due to a civil war in the Ottoman Empire. Turks have nothing to apologise because if the Turks did not undertake the deportations or massacres they would have been slaughtered or deported from Anatolia by the Greeks and Armenians. Its not a black and white issue.

Historians today are making a big mistake in thinking every genocide or massacre is like the holocaust hence why they treat the holocaust and armenian genocide as the same the when they were entirely different.
 

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Funny how this Maximilian guy always jumps out of his hole when there are negative news for the Turks in this war. He is completely invisible when we are steamrolling the Armenians.
This is a free forum and everybody is free to jump from wherever he wants in whatever time he wants. Brothers like @Maximilian Veers , @Vergennes and others are showing another look at the conflict. As long as there is not fake information (both Azerbaijani and Armenian official sources gave us a lot of them) it is good way to analyze the situation properly. The conflict is not pink and there will be casualties, offensives, counter-offensives, defence and what not.
 

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Enemy assets destroyed north of Cebrail. I believe Hadrut is in focus now as well as a general push westward towards the Armenian border (no significant settlements for the next many km in that direction).
It appears here that the drones are working with the guys on the ground for CAS to coordinate the direction of the offensive. So its not just neutralising air defence and other high value assets. I got the feeling at first that the drones and troops were both doing their own things. Perhaps they were.
 

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^these people tho.
Armenian Primeminister Pashinyan:
"If the world don't show to Turkey it's strong stance surely it will force them to see Turkey at the gates of Viena again."
"Turkey is supporting Azerbaijan and we see it's imperialist stance"

Edited by Moderator: Please translate your posts in English!
 
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It appears here that the drones are working with the guys on the ground for CAS to coordinate the direction of the offensive. So its not just neutralising air defence and other high value assets. I got the feeling at first that the drones and troops were both doing their own things. Perhaps they were.

In the beginning yes. But since the enemy lost almost all their high value assets, the TB2s became jobless :( So they are just doing CAS instead now.
 

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^these people tho.
Armenian Primeminister Pashinyan:
"If the world don't show to Turkey it's strong stance surely it will force them to see Turkey at the gates of Viena again."
"Turkey is supporting Azerbaijan and we see it's imperialist stance"

Edited by Moderator: Please translate your posts in English!

Armenians are trying to use European, white and Christian solidarity to get support now they are using the Ottoman boogeyman. Same old Ottoman empire which the armenians benefitted from.
 
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“Turkey has a clear objective of reinstating the Turkish Empire. Don’t be surprised if that policy succeeds here, don’t be surprised if they attempt to incorporate into their empire not only the Greek islands but expand further into continental Europe. If Turkey succeeds in this, wait for them in Vienna.”

 

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Azerbaijan should continue to hunt down their ATGM crews (or general anti-tank infantry) and artillery. Armenia will try to make the most of its ground assets. With the advantage which drones give the Azeri side, armour loss shouldn't be happening at all.

A swarm of a few dozen TB2 drones should be sent to deal heavy blow to them, along with some Aksungurs for bunkers and convoys.
 

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Genocide is a slippery slope you can apply genocide to every massacre or deportation in history.

I dont believe its a genocide more like a massacre that happened due to a civil war in the Ottoman Empire. Turks have nothing to apologise because if the Turks did not undertake the deportations or massacres they would have been slaughtered or deported from Anatolia by the Greeks and Armenians. Its not a black and white issue.

Historians today are making a big mistake in thinking every genocide or massacre is like the holocaust hence why they treat the holocaust and armenian genocide as the same the when they were entirely different.
Its also worth mentioning that unlike Jews the Armenians got armed by Russians against Ottoman Empire and committed numerous massacres on Turks and other Muslims in eastern Turkey, thats when they lost their right to live in anatolia and got deported.
Now today its being called a genocide by Christian nations and being used as a bargaining chip against Turks, nobody should expect Turks to accept those allegations when they themselves are quiet about all those massacres committed from Christian side against Muslim minorities be it in Eastern Turkey, Caucasus, Krimea or Balkans.
 

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Its also worth mentioning that unlike Jews the Armenians got armed by Russians against Ottoman Empire and committed numerous massacres on Turks and other Muslims in eastern Turkey, thats when they lost their right to live in anatolia and got deported.
Now today its being called a genocide by Christian nations and being used as a bargaining chip against Turks, nobody should expect Turks to accept those allegations when they themselves are quiet about all those massacres committed from Christian side against Muslim minorities be it in Eastern Turkey, Caucasus, Krimea or Balkans.

Indeed 100% true a European once tried to guilt trip Ataturk about the Armenians and he said this.

Armenians are the ones who started it and the Muslims were defending themselves. In the Caucasus front Mustafa Kemal Ataturk documented the destruction of many Turkish villages and the bodies of villagers massacred by Armenian insurgents and Armenian soldiers fighting for the Russian Empire

To make matters worse they sabotaged the war effort.
 
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Why would so many troops advance on foot ? You'd have a forward unit scout ahead and the rest would come in vehicles.

There are dozens of such videos in the Syrian conflict. Where folks from both sides are advancing right into machine-gun fire or right under arty fire. Usually shows a lack of squad-level tactics, or not aware of Armenian positions while advancing. Surprising ..considering the UAV domination Azeri's have on the battlefield.
 
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