Azerbaijan Armenia Tensions

[Agha Sher]

Psh, no need. Azerbaijan has Israeli SAM systems at hand.

Nah those are too expensive to waste on Iranian drones. Better using them for stopping missile strikes

 

[Agha Sher]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1638269152778502144

we pray.

 

[Latebra Factum]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1638269152778502144

we pray.

what are the consequences of these events on the region ?

 

[Agha Sher]

what are the consequences of these events on the region ?

1. The end of armenian statehood as we know it.
2. the physical connection of the Turkic world.
3. Iran either being a small loser (not taking action or very limited action) or a big loser by attacking Azerbaijan (being destroyed by Turkiye and Israel)
4. Russia either being a small loser (not doing anything and make a weakened and isolated armenia a puppet) or a big loser by taking action (being destroyed by Turkiye in the South Caucasus and lose the Ukrainian war)

Turkish and Azeri planners have really though this one out.

 

[Agha Sher]

Very unusual flight from Kuwait to Azerbaijan. (Weapon transport).

Today, a military cargo plane from Algeria arrived in Azerbaijan. Additionally, a RAF C-130 turned its transponder off when it neared Azeri air space. (UK is very supportive of Azerbaijan)

Something is brewing.

 

[dBSPL]

There is no other state system in the world that fits the description of a banana republic so well. Armenia is running for its complete collapse.

 

[Afif]

1. The end of armenian statehood as we know it.
2. the physical connection of the Turkic world.

There is no point in being so dramatic and unrealistic.

'Statehood of Armenia' is not going to end anytime soon.

They are just going to loose the war again and this time probably more decisively.

 

[bisbis]

Very unusual flight from Kuwait to Azerbaijan. (Weapon transport).

Today, a military cargo plane from Algeria arrived in Azerbaijan. Additionally, a RAF C-130 turned its transponder off when it neared Azeri air space. (UK is very supportive of Azerbaijan)

Something is brewing.

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Dear, Agha sher (and other members), there is no society or nation called "Azeri". People living in Azerbaijan are Türk. For this reason, we do not accept the expression "azeri". We even think that this expression is used to divide the Türk nation. Therefore, please do not use the word "azeri" unless you intend to divide the Türk's nation. Please, Use the name "Azerbaijan" as the ownership prefix instead.

 

[Agha Sher]

Mr. Agha sher (and other members), there is no society or nation called "Azeri". People living in Azerbaijan are Türk. For this reason, we do not accept the expression "azeri". We even think that this expression is used to divide the Türk nation. Therefore, please do not use the word "azeri" unless you intend to divide the Türk's nation. Please, Use the name "Azerbaijan" as the ownership prefix instead.

My apologies. I was not aware. In good faith, I believed a person from Azerbaijan would be called "Azeri" even though they are Turks.

Thank you for correcting me.

 

[Agha Sher]

There is no point in being so dramatic and unrealistic.

'Statehood of Armenia' is not going to end anytime soon.

They are just going to loose the war again and this time probably more decisively.

I specifically added "as we know it" afterwards. by losing the coming war, armenia will be completely landlocked (no allies on its borders), weak and dependent on Russia. In fact, armenia will just become a de-facto non-independent puppet of Russia.

 

[Afif]

OK, now i am getting really confused @bisbis

I mean, ethnically you are Turks, but clearly Azerbaijan is a nation state.

So, what is wrong with calling Azeri people 'Azeri'?

 

[Heartbang]

So, what is wrong with calling you 'Azeri'?

Its a pejorative term Persians came up with to break away the brotherly bonds between the Turkish tribes. Same as the theory behind the term "Turkic" that has its origins in Imperial Russia.

Its all Turks from Siberia to Kirkuk, from the Adriatic sea to the Great Wall. And those terms are petty "divide and conquer" tactics.

 

[Afif]

I specifically added "as we know it" afterwards. by losing the coming war, armenia will be completely landlocked (no allies on its borders),

Armenia has border with Iran and Georgia.
Unless Azerbaijan is planning to capture the sovereign teritory of Armenia those borders are not going to change.

Did you implying that by saying 'Physical connection of Turkic world'?

If so, I think this is very unlikely given the consequences.

weak and dependent on Russia. In fact, armenia will just become a de-facto non-independent puppet of Russia.

Armenia is already pretty weak and heavily dependent on Russian Federation.

 

[bisbis]

Breaking! Armenia allows Iran to use UAVs and UCAVs in their airspace to spy on Azerbaijan…

hopefully, Azeri Akinci are equipped with Sungur

It should be equipped with both Akıncı Tiha and Tb2 Siha sungur missiles and used in Azerbaijan.

Also, I think that the Bozdoğan missile is also necessary.

It would be great if this newly introduced suicide drone named "AZAB" was prepared, produced and delivered to Azerbaijan as soon as possible. As in Ukraine, if the Azerbaijani army collapses the infrastructure of Armenia early, Armenia may surrender quickly.

 

[Agha Sher]

Armenia has border with Iran and Georgia.
Unless Azerbaijan is planning to capture the sovereign teritory of Armenia those borders are not going to change.

Did you implying that by saying 'Physical connection of Turkic world'?

If so, I think this is very unlikely given the consequences.


Armenia is already pretty weak and heavily dependent on Russian Federation.

Yes, Azerbaijan has her eyes set on a physical connection to its autonomous region and Turkiye. If armenia does not respect Azerbaijan's sovereignty, why should Azerbaijan respect armenia's?

armenia is already weak but they are looking towards the west and trying to replace Russia. Russia is of course not happy. A totally weak and isolated armenia would be at the mercy of Russia.

 

[Latebra Factum]

If a small-scale conflict between Azerbaijan and Armenia occurs in the coming days , the likelihood of Azerbaijan retaking its stolen lands are pretty darn high , Turkey and Israel will most likely intervene as seen in the latest Nagorno-Karabakh conflict .
Personally , i stand by Azerbaijan , Turkey and Israel in removing Armenia and the terrorist-state named Iran from the map .

 

[Heartbang]

Armenia has border with Iran and Georgia.
Unless Azerbaijan is planning to capture the sovereign teritory of Armenia those borders are not going to change.

Did you implying that by saying 'Physical connection of Turkic world'?

If so, I think this is very unlikely given the consequences.

If Iran gets involved in this conflict(which they almost certainly will) Azerbaijan may have to invoke the relevant article in the Shusha declaration.
After that, the Turkish Armed Forces will kerb-stomp its way to Yerevan and Gyumri in a blink. And Tabriz in a fortnight.

You might call me a bullshit artist, but that is the way it will go.

 

[dBSPL]

If a small-scale conflict between Azerbaijan and Armenia occurs in the coming days , the likelihood of Azerbaijan retaking its stolen lands are pretty darn high , Turkey and Israel will most likely intervene as seen in the latest Nagorno-Karabakh conflict .
Personally , i stand by Azerbaijan , Turkey and Israel in removing Armenia and the terrorist-state named Iran from the map .

The equation is not that simple and Israel is interested in Armenia's and Azerbaijan's relations with Iran, not Azerbaijan's kick ass of Armenia. Both the US-based lobby and establishment, and the internal political structure in Israel always have a very careful and balanced discourse on Armenia. But the real deterrent is the TR-AZ relation type factor. Especially after the recent Shusha declaration, If anyone declares war on Azerbaijan, they will be deemed to have attacked Türkiye, and this principle is in a way similar to NATO's fifth article.

This is not just a simple memorandum of understanding. Even the coordination and command mechanism of the armies has been established. And this structure is tested by many joint force exercises throughout the year. Normally, there is a lot of paperwork and permissions that need to be completed even if this many soldiers and personnel are going to a brotherly country. There is direct hotline between the armed forces of Azerbaijan and Turkiye and all bureaucratic obstacles that would reduce the reaction time have been simplified. Two hours after the Kahramanmaras first earthquake, we saw that this direct line was working even for the disaster relief units of armies.

Anyway, the most that will happen is self-masturbation of anonymous mulla accounts with third-rate video animations and a crushed Armenia on the field, again.

 

[Afif]

After that, the Turkish Armed Forces will kerb-stomp its way to Yerevan and Gyumri in a blink. And Tabriz in a fortnight.

You might call me a bullshit artist, but that is the way it will go.

No, it is not about the physical strength of Turkish armed forces. ( Sure, they can do that )

I am talking about long term geopolitical consequences of invading Armenia's sovereign territory.

I Fear heavy western sanctions.

And given Turkey doesn't have enough natural resources and it is still a developing country with a heavy dependency on the West for trade with an economy less than $1 trillion, Transatlantic joint sanctions by EU and USA could very Turkey from almost every aspect.

You need to play it smarter, not harder.

 

[dBSPL]

An air force that inspires fear among friends and confidence among enemies

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1638299516808884224

According to journalist Ahmet Şairoğlu, the support flights of the Dezful base maneuvering from Tabriz to Parsabad have been switched from the usual patrol mode to the operational level. However, Şairoğlu is a journalist who likes to froth some times, so it is worth taking it with a pinch of salt. Although it must be admitted that many pro-Iranian twitter accounts are also talking about the conditions under which Iran's traditional border exercise activity will start