Boğaziçi Protests

[Sinan]

Respect the laws of the country if you do not like it move.

There is no law in France that bars woman from wearing Hijab.

 

[Ryder]

Why bigot? Why are you upset? According to you freedom means it's ok to choose the people you want around you in the workplace.
Btw, that woman won her case in Courts, so she was done right by the system because this is how the system works.
You want justice for discriminated Muslims but, on the other hand, you want to freely discriminate others.
You, my dear sir,are a class A hypocrite.

Muslims defend Christians and Jews when they are discriminated against.

Muslims in the usa helped the Jewish community as Andrew cuomo targeted them due to his coronavirus tyranny in which he caused.

 

[guest12]

I must agree with @Nein2.0 and @mulj on this one.

LGBT, third wave feminism and everything else which it can be grouped with is not just a "human rights" movement. No.

It's being shoved down people's throats. It is being taught to children. Parent's are changing their children's genders before the child can even walk.

They are openly sexualising children. They are diminishing men's sense of self worth, many teens are turning gay/bi because they quickly realise that life is much tougher as a straight male because of feminists which would much rather see you as a weakling.

Why work as a engineer, doctor, mechanic, IT technician or professional soldier when you can earn more by being a tool for the LGBT agenda? Earn 150k AUD a year for advocating the idea that there's over 100 genders.


If we are going to fight those who use Islam as a tool for their own benefit, who force it down people's throats, then please let's not fight fire with fire.

Both political Islam and LGBT/feminism/liberalism can go to hell.

Kemalism and Pan-Turkism is all we need. All our morals, values and traditions were established by us and for us. We should not use Western or Arab movements and ideologies to teach us how to live. End of story.

Agree to last letter.Puck all those foreign idelogies and ones stupid enough to get brainwashed by them.

 

[Deliorman]

I must agree with @Nein2.0 and @mulj on this one.

LGBT, third wave feminism and everything else which it can be grouped with is not just a "human rights" movement. No.

It's being shoved down people's throats. It is being taught to children. Parent's are changing their children's genders before the child can even walk.

They are openly sexualising children. They are diminishing men's sense of self worth, many teens are turning gay/bi because they quickly realise that life is much tougher as a straight male because of feminists which would much rather see you as a weakling.

Why work as a engineer, doctor, mechanic, IT technician or professional soldier when you can earn more by being a tool for the LGBT agenda? Earn 150k AUD a year for advocating the idea that there's over 100 genders.


If we are going to fight those who use Islam as a tool for their own benefit, who force it down people's throats, then please let's not fight fire with fire.

Both political Islam and LGBT/feminism/liberalism can go to hell.

Kemalism and Pan-Turkism is all we need. All our morals, values and traditions were established by us and for us. We should not use Western or Arab movements and ideologies to teach us how to live. End of story.

Great, but that has nothing to do with the topic and Turkey at all. You guys take a photo or a tweet you saw somewhere and think that it’s such a huge problem while refusing to see the real problems. Not even 2% in Turkey know what terms like “3rd wave feminism” or “non-binary” even mean or care about stuff like same sex marriage so just chill- Turkey won’t turn into the awful West you guys hate so much but continue to live in.

Instead of focusing on the fact that education in Turkey is being destroyed, that the students and the staff in one of the best universities in Turkey just don’t want their Institution to be lead and destroyed by some puppet that the corrupt government chose, instead of focusing on the fact that the Government Police Forces do everything to suppress a peaceful protest which is a constitutional right of the citizens- you guys talk about LGBT, Soros and stuff like that.

Continue to call the educated youth of the country as terrorists, bandits, faggots etc and let’s see what your future is.

 

[Costin84]

Muslims defend Christians and Jews when they are discriminated against.

Muslims in the usa helped the Jewish community as Andrew cuomo targeted them due to his coronavirus tyranny in which he caused.

All religious people were up in arms when houses of worship were closed due to corona virus. The Orthodox Church was outraged of the ban on a single silver spoon being used for the Eucharist(hundreds of people sipping wine from the same spoon).....lol...you can't get sick from the sacred spoon they've said....

 

[Ryder]

Great, but that has nothing to do with the topic and Turkey at all. You guys take a photo or a tweet you saw somewhere and think that it’s such a huge problem while refusing to see the real problems. Not even 2% in Turkey know what terms like “3rd wave feminism” or “non-binary” even mean or care about stuff like same sex marriage so just chill- Turkey won’t turn into the awful West you guys hate so much but continue to live in.

Instead of focusing on the fact that education in Turkey is being destroyed, that the students and the staff in one of the best universities in Turkey just don’t want their Institution to be lead and destroyed by some puppet that the corrupt government chose, instead of focusing on the fact that the Government Police Forces do everything to suppress a peaceful protest which is a constitutional right of the citizens- you guys talk about LGBT, Soros and stuff like that.

Continue to call the educated youth of the country as terrorists, bandits, faggots etc and let’s see what your future is.

When my parents migrated to Australia none of this lbgt garbage was here.

The west has changed a lot. Even westerners themselves are fed up but it cant say anything because it might ruin their lives.

 

[mulj]

Why bigot? Why are you upset? According to you freedom means it's ok to choose the people you want around you in the workplace.
Btw, that woman won her case in Courts, so she was done right by the system because this is how the system works.
You want justice for discriminated Muslims but, on the other hand, you want to freely discriminate others.
You, my dear sir,are a class A hypocrite.

How so? French courts ditched her? Where i showed discrimination towards other people, do not lie,

 

[Sinan]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1356923588008378368

"Şeyma Altundal, one of the students taken into custody, was dragged on the ground while she was being detained, her headscarf was unfastened, she was not allowed to wear the headscarf again ..."

Fighting all kinds of crime, the Turkish Police also fight all kinds of lies

Sad to see the level of corruption in the state institutes.

Let's do a fact check. This is the official statement of Şeyma.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1356991439369043969

She says, during the arrest a female cop dragged her on the ground. While she was being dragged her headscarf came of. She was reverse-handcuffed. Then she was taken into police van. Because of the handcuffs she couldn't fix her headscarf. She wanted permission from the police but police declined.

^^^ This was her statement.

When you look at the video shared by the police.

1-) First part before the arresting begin she was on live. Infact, i watched her livestream. Here is her livestream.

2-) Second part is while she was being taken to hospital for health check. For knowledge, when police arrests you, they first took you to police station. They get your first statement in the police. Afterwards they take you to hospital for health check, then they took you to prosecutor where prosecutor decides, if you are going to be trialed or not. If you are going to be trialed he would decide if you arrest continues or you will be released.

Police footage doesn't even match with the Şeyma's timeline where she was abused.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1356937318624612354

More over in these kind of incidents, police always have a police cam in the scene that films the incident. Then one would wonder, why police is not showing their film where Şeyma was being taken into custody?

In this video you can clearly saw that, Şeyma's head-scarf being pulled when police begans arresting.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1356325239563685888

 

[Mis_TR_Like]

Great, but that has nothing to do with the topic and Turkey at all. You guys take a photo or a tweet you saw somewhere and think that it’s such a huge problem while refusing to see the real problems. Not even 2% in Turkey know what terms like “3rd wave feminism” or “non-binary” even mean or care about stuff like same sex marriage so just chill- Turkey won’t turn into the awful West you guys hate so much but continue to live in.

Instead of focusing on the fact that education in Turkey is being destroyed, that the students and the staff in one of the best universities in Turkey just don’t want their Institution to be lead and destroyed by some puppet that the corrupt government chose, instead of focusing on the fact that the Government Police Forces do everything to suppress a peaceful protest which is a constitutional right of the citizens- you guys talk about LGBT, Soros and stuff like that.

Continue to call the educated youth of the country as terrorists, bandits, faggots etc and let’s see what your future is.

Instead of protesting like a real man, targeting the issue directly, just wave the LGBT flag and bring communism into the mix! That'll fix everything.

I know how fucked up the situation is over there and used to be very vocal about it. Couldn't care less now as everytime a protest starts the protesters shoot themselves in the foot.

What fucking relevance does communism or LGBT have with the government's stupid decision to put in their own rector. The people who do this are either purposefully sabotaging the protest, or brain dead.

One image or video of a flag or poster which doesn't belong there can ruin the public's perception of the protest. Something which many can't get through their thick skulls.

 

[Costin84]

How so? French courts ditched her? Where i showed discrimination towards other people, do not lie,

You were outraged that people are forced to work,do business with lgbt people.

 

[mulj]

There is no law in France that bars woman from wearing Hijab.

I say it in principle and you are not right in state insitutions it is forbidden to wear it.

 

[mulj]

You were outraged that people are forced to work,do business with lgbt people.

How is that discrimination, can you provide coherent and logical chain ot tought when you acuse me.

 

[Costin84]

How is that discrimination, can you provide coherent and logical chain ot tought when you acuse me.

It's discrimination in the same way that a particular company didn't want to work with a woman just because she was wearing a headscarf, I'm shocked that I have to spell this out for you.

 

[Sinan]

I say it in principle and you are not right in state insitutions it is forbidden to wear it.

The French ban on face covering (French: LOI n° 2010-1192: Loi interdisant la dissimulation du visage dans l'espace public,[1] "Law of 2010-1192: Act prohibiting concealment of the face in public space") is an act of parliament passed by the Senate of France on 14 September 2010, resulting in the ban on the wearing of face-covering headgear, including masks, helmets, balaclavas, niqābs and other veils covering the face in public places, except under specified circumstances.[citation needed] The ban also applies to the burqa, a full-body covering, if it covers the face. Consequently, full body costumes and Zentais (skin-tight garments covering entire body) were banned. The bill had previously been passed by the National Assembly of France on 13 July 2010.[2] In April 2011, France became the first European country to impose a ban on full-face veils in public areas.[3]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frenc... and other headwear,those who violate the law.

Seems like it isn't.

 

[mulj]

It's discrimination in the same way that a particular company didn't want to work with a woman just because she was wearing a headscarf, I'm shocked that I have to spell this out for you.

No it is not, this one time decision without influemce on their day to day life without harm to them personally, as i said he serves gays in his shop without discrimination, how is that comparable?

 

[Ryder]

Instead of protesting like a real man, targeting the issue directly, just wave the LGBT flag and bring communism into the mix! That'll fix everything.

I know how fucked up the situation is over there and used to be very vocal about it. Couldn't care less now as everytime a protest starts the protesters shoot themselves in the foot.

What fucking relevance does communism or LGBT have with the government's stupid decision to put in their own rector. The people who do this are either purposefully sabotaging the protest, or brain dead.

One image or video of a flag or poster which doesn't belong there can ruin the public's perception of the protest. Something which many can't get through their thick skulls.

Everytime a protest happens its always commies or leftists then you have lbgt crowd.

After that they start rioting and chimping out.

Then complain about police brutality.

 

[Costin84]

No it is not, this one time decision without influemce on their day to day life without harm to them personally, as i said he serves gays in his shop without discrimination, how is that comparable?

It's the same, discriminating people on religious beliefs or sexual orientation or gender,or ethnicity,it's still discrimination.

 

[mulj]

The French ban on face covering (French: LOI n° 2010-1192: Loi interdisant la dissimulation du visage dans l'espace public,[1] "Law of 2010-1192: Act prohibiting concealment of the face in public space") is an act of parliament passed by the Senate of France on 14 September 2010, resulting in the ban on the wearing of face-covering headgear, including masks, helmets, balaclavas, niqābs and other veils covering the face in public places, except under specified circumstances.[citation needed] The ban also applies to the burqa, a full-body covering, if it covers the face. Consequently, full body costumes and Zentais (skin-tight garments covering entire body) were banned. The bill had previously been passed by the National Assembly of France on 13 July 2010.[2] In April 2011, France became the first European country to impose a ban on full-face veils in public areas.[3]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_ban_on_face_covering#:~:text=In April 2011, France became,face veils in public areas.&text=Veils, scarves and other headwear,those who violate the law.

Seems like it isn't.

Seems like it is.

Stanford scholars report French headscarf ban adversely impacts Muslim girls

French ban on headscarves in public schools hindered Muslim girls’ ability to finish school.

humsci.stanford.edu

 

[mulj]

It's the same, discriminating people on religious beliefs or sexual orientation or gender,or ethnicity,it's still discrimination.

So we have catch 22, he is discriminated because his religous beleifs, who decide who has bigger rights, apsurdity.

 

[Ryder]

Sad to see the level of corruption in the state institutes.

Let's do a fact check. This is the official statement of Şeyma.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1356991439369043969

She says, during the arrest a female cop dragged her on the ground. While she was being dragged her headscarf came of. She was reverse-handcuffed. Then she was taken into police van. Because of the handcuffs she couldn't fix her headscarf. She wanted permission from the police but police declined.

^^^ This was her statement.

When you look at the video shared by the police.

1-) First part before the arresting begin she was on live. Infact, i watched her livestream. Here is her livestream.

2-) Second part is while she was being taken to hospital for health check. For knowledge, when police arrests you, they first took you to police station. They get your first statement in the police. Afterwards they take you to hospital for health check, then they took you to prosecutor where prosecutor decides, if you are going to be trialed or not. If you are going to be trialed he would decide if you arrest continues or you will be released.

Police footage doesn't even match with the Şeyma's timeline where she was abused.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1356937318624612354

More over in these kind of incidents, police always have a police cam in the scene that films the incident. Then one would wonder, why police is not showing their film where Şeyma was being taken into custody?

Protestors sang pkk songs also attacked cop cars.

Be happy that the police did not respond with bullets because they could have done it long ago.

Mark my words Turkish police and Turkish soldiers dont screw around.