China may use its ‘pawn’ Pakistan to enter Afghanistan: IAF chief RKS Bhadauria

[Jackdaws]

This is how trustworthy Indian news channels are, even the west won't trust them.

BBC: The dead professor and the vast pro-India disinformation campaign

The dead professor and the vast pro-India disinformation campaign

A Harvard icon and fake media have been used in a global campaign to serve Indian interests, research reveals.

www.bbc.com

News channels? Which News channels are implicated? Only one news Agency is implicated.

 

[Jackdaws]

Grow up, man, no child's play here.

What are you on about? It's simple enough - did you make up the words "pick fights" or not? A Yes or No will suffice.

 

[xizhimen]

What are you on about? It's simple enough - did you make up the words "pick fights" or not? A Yes or No will suffice.

Everyone may choose their words to talk about an issue, I m not here to talking about wordings but the issues, don't behave like a child, if you can't engage in a decent discussion btw adults, I'm not gonna to waste time on you.

 

[Jackdaws]

Everyone may choose their words to talk about an issue, I m not here to talking about wordings but the issues, don't behave like a child, if you can't engage in a decent discussion btw adults, I'm not gonna to waste time on you.

If you wish to pass off fiction as fact, that's your prerogative. I don't know about the Communist world, but in the democratic world if you wish to make an assertion, it is usually backed by sources. And avoid ad hominen attacks

 

[xizhimen]

If you wish to pass off fiction as fact, that's your prerogative. I don't know about the Communist world, but in the democratic world if you wish to make an assertion, it is usually backed by sources. And avoid ad hominen attacks

Indian news are full of lies and disinformation, you and me both know it for a fact, you can deny though.

Fake news in India - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Topic: Fake news in India

Find out the latest statistics and facts about fake news in India

www.statista.com

 

[Jackdaws]

Indian news are full of lies and disinformation, you and me both know it for a fact, you can deny though.

Fake news in India - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Now in the link you posted go through counter measures. In countries with freedom of speech and expression, there will be abuse of that right. But checks and balances eventually balance it out. Now, obviously this is different from a communist state which only deals in misinformation, propaganda and lies.

 

[xizhimen]

Now in the link you posted go through counter measures. In countries with freedom of speech and expression, there will be abuse of that right. But checks and balances eventually balance it out. Now, obviously this is different from a communist state which only deals in misinformation, propaganda and lies.

If it filled with too much lies and becomes government sponsored, it becomes hard to balance out.

The dead professor and the vast pro-India disinformation campaign

A Harvard icon and fake media have been used in a global campaign to serve Indian interests, research reveals.

www.bbc.com

 

[Jackdaws]

If it filled with too much lies and becomes government sponsored, it becomes hard to balance out.

The dead professor and the vast pro-India disinformation campaign

A Harvard icon and fake media have been used in a global campaign to serve Indian interests, research reveals.

www.bbc.com

Exactly my point - Govt sponsored lies have a way of coming out in democracies but not in Communist setups.

 

[xizhimen]

Exactly my point - Govt sponsored lies have a way of coming out in democracies but not in Communist setups.

Ok, whatever you believe to make yourself happy, we don't really care about your so called democracy, Chinese tried it since 1911 and it failed miserably, China was one of the first democracies in Asia, we know what it is and how it can fail badly.

 

[xizhimen]

List of countries by date of transition to republican system of government​

China	October 10, 1911

India	January 26, 1950

 

[Jackdaws]

Ok, whatever you believe to make yourself happy, we don't really care about your so called democracy, Chinese tried it since 1912 and it failed miserably, China was one of the first democracies in Asia, we know what it is and how it can fail badly.

But we care about your lack of democracy as it leads to 100,000 Chinese refugees in India and the persecution of Buddhists. Not to mention the spread of a global pandemic recently because of your system. So yes, we would like all this to be made right for the sake of humanity.

 

[Jackdaws]

List of countries by date of transition to republican system of government​

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China	October 10, 1911

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India	January 26, 1950

Do you understand the difference between Republican and Democratic?

 

[xizhimen]

But we care about your lack of democracy as it leads to 100,000 Chinese refugees in India and the persecution of Buddhists. Not to mention the spread of a global pandemic recently because of your system. So yes, we would like all this to be made right for the sake of humanity.

What 100,000 Chinese, were they born in China or overseas? before, Covid-19 so far can earliest traced back to Italy in September 2019, new discoveries keep popping up, so it's too early to say we can pinpoint the origin of the virus.

 

[xizhimen]

Do you understand the difference between Republican and Democratic?

Republic of China was a democracy with uncontrolled media and free election, with everything copied from the west, same as India, it turned out to be the biggest disaster in the Chinese history.

 

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[Huelague]

Thats for sure!

 

[Kaptaan]

No one has a spotless record. Few nations if any have as tainted a record as Pakistan.

Reality pill served by TRT.

The staggering scale of India’s anti-Pakistan propaganda machine​

Hundreds of fake news websites and NGOs linked to Indian entities were used to spread propaganda against Pakistan internationally.​

For years Pakistan has accused its archrival India of engaging in hybrid warfare which relies on a disinformation campaign to undermine Islamabad at international forums. Now it seems much of that is true.

The EU DisinfoLab has uncovered a network of NGOs and fake media organisations linked to India that for more than a decade have been engaged in anti-Pakistan propaganda.

"It is the largest network we have exposed," Alexandre Alaphilippe, executive director of EU DisinfoLab told the BBC after the report “Indian Chronicles” was published on Wednesday.

Brussels-based DisinfoLab is a European NGO which aims to check the disinformation targeting the European Union, its parliamentarians and policies.

In a sophisticated operation, much of which has been linked to the New Delhi-based Srivastava Group, hundreds of fake media outlets, long-dead organisations and stolen identities were used to paint Pakistan in a negative light in the EU and elsewhere, the report says.

The staggering scale of India’s anti-Pakistan propaganda machine

Hundreds of fake news websites and NGOs linked to Indian entities were used to spread propaganda against Pakistan internationally.

www.trtworld.com

 

[Waz]

China is already there in terms of business.

 

[Nilgiri]

Tbh India and Pakistan are such pansies fight a real war then not pot shots and stop thinking 1971 war was such a special event

You better drop this line of asserting what someone else is thinking w.r.t some event (that you bring up, not him) being "special" in this dismissive, ignorant and hypocritical manner...given what that event was.

You can leave that for the twitter "gotcha" hordes and other such places, desperately looking for something they cant have in real life.

Apparently that "special" set of events was just a India vs Pakistan dustup, matchup thing?

That's a trollish thing to say.

Learn what a track record on the ground refers to, accounts of survivors of most disturbing "statecraft".

Places like the liberation war museum, Dhaka.

Look it up on wiki, youtube and tell next what is accounted for there on a regime's track record.

We go to the level here in this forum in good faith, that we keep criticism contained to regime/establishment only (specific elitist people who organised, directed and executed) regarding events like that....so as to not insinuate the whole country and regular body of people.

Don't wear and erode down on that for some cheap shot....by using whole country names in some mocking or teasing manner and then treating something like a war (specially that kind of war) so casually.

That will not work here young fella, you will have to change your manner in approaching that stuff...or just keep your gob closed if you can't.

No one "wins" in war in first place, humans all lose.

If you do not understand that... that is on you...but not others to tolerate.

That too leaving out one party subject to that war and track record... all together because it is too uncomfortable to include, all because you seemingly have to defend a regime at the time as "core" constituent in some hook, line and sinker way.

It was not a special event at all. There is not one word that exists to call it something properly, especially to derail another topic merely for it being India-Pakistan in some other way.

You automatically going to "1971" when someone talks about "track record" is psychology in action..... "I guess"?.

Who exactly are you to label anyone (especially whole countries) as "pansies" or "3rd worlders killing other 3rd worlders" like you did earlier elsewhere?

We are supposed to believe its the countries that are 3rd world and pansies...rather than the mentality of the person saying it? OK, right.

Suddenly some hot-take you have of the DC power corridor muh-globalist-neo-liberal reference you abhor in other areas (esp when it comes to lovely PRC) is a gold standard reference of absolute importance.

I'm sorry where you someone in Nixon's cabinet or something to assert like this? Say someone suggesting to mr clean-much-respected Nixon to ignore the Blood-telegram and instead send the USS Enterprise somewhere in the general direction of muh-SEATO ally?

If you weren't.... this doesn't reek of hypocrisy at all "I guess"?...like just a tad ?

Next one I see anywhere to make light of any war and atrocities + massive refugee crisis that prompted it will get reported and get warnings.

The Indians trolling/baiting/gotcha similarly on such things will also have zero-tolerance going forward.

Just so that everyone is on same page.

 

[Jackdaws]

Reality pill served by TRT.

The staggering scale of India’s anti-Pakistan propaganda machine​

Hundreds of fake news websites and NGOs linked to Indian entities were used to spread propaganda against Pakistan internationally.​

For years Pakistan has accused its archrival India of engaging in hybrid warfare which relies on a disinformation campaign to undermine Islamabad at international forums. Now it seems much of that is true.

The EU DisinfoLab has uncovered a network of NGOs and fake media organisations linked to India that for more than a decade have been engaged in anti-Pakistan propaganda.

"It is the largest network we have exposed," Alexandre Alaphilippe, executive director of EU DisinfoLab told the BBC after the report “Indian Chronicles” was published on Wednesday.

Brussels-based DisinfoLab is a European NGO which aims to check the disinformation targeting the European Union, its parliamentarians and policies.

In a sophisticated operation, much of which has been linked to the New Delhi-based Srivastava Group, hundreds of fake media outlets, long-dead organisations and stolen identities were used to paint Pakistan in a negative light in the EU and elsewhere, the report says.

The staggering scale of India’s anti-Pakistan propaganda machine

Hundreds of fake news websites and NGOs linked to Indian entities were used to spread propaganda against Pakistan internationally.

www.trtworld.com

Has any link been found to the Indian State or Indian Officials?