TR Defence Exports & Updates

[Marlii]

I heard that TAIS and Indian Navy finalized the contract.

Any source? The news circulating in Indian defence circles was that HSL would go for a homemade design

 

[Baryshx]

Any source? The news circulating in Indian defence circles was that HSL would go for a homemade design

It seems that design and production will be done locally.

Big boost to ‘Aatmanirbharta’ in defence: MoD inks Rs 19,000 crore contract with HSL for five Fleet Support Ships for Indian Navy

Ministry of Defence, on August 25, 2023, signed a contract with Hindustan Shipyard Limited (HSL), Vi

pib.gov.in

 

[Huelague]

Any source? The news circulating in Indian defence circles was that HSL would go for a homemade design

Youtube Channels.

 

[TheInsider]

I heard that TAIS will be a counselor for local companies.

 

[Baryshx]

Officials during the signing of on MoU between Ministry of Defence and Hindustan Shipyard Limited (HSL), Visakhapatnam for acquisition of five fleet support ships (FSS) for the Indian Navy on August 25, 2023. | Photo Credit: PTI

Defence Ministry signs ₹19,000-crore contract with HSL for five fleet support ships

Defence Ministry signs ₹19,000 crore contract with Hindustan Shipyard Limited for 5 fleet support ships, to be built in India. Ships to enhance Indian Navy's blue water capability and generate 168.8 lakh man-days

www.thehindu.com

 

[Sanchez]

35m worth of Tolun SDBs for an Akıncı customer, probably Saudi?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1696097161602072939

I wonder how may Toluns we have in service...

 

[Afif]

35m worth of Tolun SDBs for an Akıncı customer, probably Saudi?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1696097161602072939

I wonder how may Toluns we have in service...

If we estimate Tolun's unit cost to be 3/4 of GBU-53/B, then $35m probbaly means around 200 Tolun unit+ maintenance support cost.

 

[Agha Sher]

35m worth of Tolun SDBs for an Akıncı customer, probably Saudi?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1696097161602072939

I wonder how may Toluns we have in service...

Potentially Azerbaijan. They might need them for upcoming hostilities.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1696140024364871808

Tolun is perfect to destroy armenian bunkers

 

[Agha Sher]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1696134883893018914

Morocco seems interested in Akinci after they purchased TB2.

@Knowledgeseeker

 

[Ghost soldier]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1696134883893018914

Morocco seems interested in Akinci after they purchased TB2.

@Knowledgeseeker

Yes, after The MQ-9 Deal with The US is frozen, morocco looks for alternatives, and the akinci with all it's munition seems A logical choice after buying The TB2.

 

[Ghost soldier]

Yes, after The MQ-9 Deal with The US is frozen, morocco looks for alternatives, and the akinci with all it's munition seems A logical choice after buying The TB2.

Plus after morocco bought 12 TB2 drones, the Numbers has rised To 36 TB2

 

[Agha Sher]

Yes, after The MQ-9 Deal with The US is frozen, morocco looks for alternatives, and the akinci with all it's munition seems A logical choice after buying The TB2.

How many MQ-9s were you plantning to buy?

 

[Ghost soldier]

How many MQ-9s were you plantning to buy?

It was orginally four mq-9. But I think 4 mq-9 is worth 10 akincis

 

[Agha Sher]

It was orginally four mq-9. But I think 4 mq-9 is worth 10 akincis

Not worth, but equivalent in cost.

 

[Knowledgeseeker]

Yes, after The MQ-9 Deal with The US is frozen, morocco looks for alternatives, and the akinci with all it's munition seems A logical choice after buying The TB2.

I can not comment much on it, however the MQ-9 deal is not a frozen deal for Morocco. I dont know if Akinci will be acquired since we have went now for both Chinese, and Israeli drones.

Plus after morocco bought 12 TB2 drones, the Numbers has rised To 36 TB2

Minimum 36

 

[Ghost soldier]

I can not comment much on it, however the MQ-9 deal is not a frozen deal for Morocco. I dont know if Akinci will be acquired since we have went now for both Chinese, and Israeli drones.

Israeli drones are mostly kamikaze drones and recon only, chinese we have only MALE WL-2 Drones.

Poland is also choosing Wether to buy MQ-9B or akinci since

 

[AWP]

Yes, after The MQ-9 Deal with The US is frozen, morocco looks for alternatives, and the akinci with all it's munition seems A logical choice after buying The TB2.

Congrats guys

It's better for Morocco to cancel the MQ-9 Deal and go for akinci. the MQ-9 is a scam

 

[Afif]

the MQ-9 is a scam

Why?

 

[AWP]

Why?

1- Better price
2- better payload
3- huge potential ( can be EW drone with Aselsan pods, can be air superiority drone, maybe naval variant in the future )
4- way better ammunitions
5- Turkey > USA

 

[Afif]

1- Better price
2- better payload
3- huge potential ( can be EW drone with Aselsan pods, can be air superiority drone, maybe naval variant in the future )
4- way better ammunitions

Not agree with 2 and 4 but other points you mentioned only make Akinci technically a better choice. But not necessarily make MQ-9 a scam.

5- Turkey > USA

Morocco is US strategic ally in Africa. While they have good relations with Türkiye they may value security relation with USA more. Apart From that they also has other political considerations. For example, they bought Israeli PULS and American Himars despite being similar Turkish products available. (TRG-230, TRG-300, Khan) And they bought wing loo instead of Anka. Which was little surprising to me initially but I realised they have broader ambitions.

Also, there are other technical considerations too.
For example, MQ-9 can be networked through data link with moroccan F-16 fleet and newly acquired AH-64E Apache. And this is a very important advantage that Akinci does not offer.

In a nutshell, the choice is not very obvious. It all depends on Moroccan decision making And how they evaluate the pros And cons in line with their requirements.

Anyway, I am happy to see if they chooses the Akinci.