TR Defence Exports & Updates

[Huelague]

You don't have the data to back this claim I think.

Of course, I have.

 

[Huelague]

in Germany also no export of weapons without permission from the government also in the USA. Vetternwirtschaft??

You have all seen how Trump has collected orders in the Arab world for the American arms industry. You have all seen how Macron stood up for Rafale. But if the Turkish side does that..... vetternwirtschaft???

Go ........ goooo.....just go to another door.....

Is Olaf Scholz (chancellor) linked personally with German Defense industry? Or any others of that President?
This argument and the "Lemmings" mentality is not pleasant.

 

[OPTIMUS]

Is Olaf Scholz (chancellor) linked personally with German Defense industry? Or any others of that President?
This argument and the "Lemmings" mentality is not pleasant.

I've been waiting for this. So Olaf Scholz.

He narrowly escaped arrest because he was involved in the crooked and crooked business that he did with the private bank M.M. Warburg in order to cover up tax money from the tax office. After his term in office, he will have hard times. But he doesn't suddenly remember what happened.

Secondly, like every German chancellor, he has close relations with the civilian and arms industries. Here at the bottom of the picture he is currently advertising a SIEMENS turbine for sale, because this turbine is not allowed to be delivered to the destination country.

He tried with great skill to sell to Saudi Arabian Leopard 2 tanks, although German arms export restrictions were strictly prohibited.

He recently campaigned again for an East German arms manufacturer (HANAEL), which at that time produced AK 47 for the NVA. His rifles against H&K questionably lost, are now in the hands of Ukrainian Army. So HANEL is also saved.

I can give the hundreds of examples. you just have to know, German politics is controlled by the industry, no matter which industry.

 

[OPTIMUS]

And even I can obviously write now.

You were all surprised why Germany suddenly released weapons and parts deliveries amounting to 336 million and caved in to Eurofighter.

After Turkish threat because of SIEMENS turbine through certain Turkish channels, he has received new orders from the industry. he even wanted to send the turbine as well, but the Turkish side refused.
If you had seen how the corridors at the Foreign Office were full of people in full haste, you could cry.

 

[Angry Turk !!!]

And even I can obviously write now.

You were all surprised why Germany suddenly released weapons and parts deliveries amounting to 336 million and caved in to Eurofighter.

After Turkish threat because of SIEMENS turbine through certain Turkish channels, he has received new orders from the industry. he even wanted to send the turbine as well, but the Turkish side refused.
If you had seen how the corridors at the Foreign Office were full of people in full haste, you could cry.

Do you know more about this matter? It seems interesting.

 

[Huelague]

And even I can obviously write now.

You were all surprised why Germany suddenly released weapons and parts deliveries amounting to 336 million and caved in to Eurofighter.

After Turkish threat because of SIEMENS turbine through certain Turkish channels, he has received new orders from the industry. he even wanted to send the turbine as well, but the Turkish side refused.
If you had seen how the corridors at the Foreign Office were full of people in full haste, you could cry.

Who ordered the turbine, Russia or we?

 

[what]

Please on topic posts only.

 

[IC3M@N FX]

And even I can obviously write now.

You were all surprised why Germany suddenly released weapons and parts deliveries amounting to 336 million and caved in to Eurofighter.

After Turkish threat because of SIEMENS turbine through certain Turkish channels, he has received new orders from the industry. he even wanted to send the turbine as well, but the Turkish side refused.
If you had seen how the corridors at the Foreign Office were full of people in full haste, you could cry.

This is pure speculation....The parts that have been approved for export by the German government are all naval parts and their ammunition, therefore not a factor for use in Syria, Iraq & Co, because torpedoes and missiles are everything the PKK/YPG does not have on a large scale for naval war targets and they are not fighting against Turkey at sea either.
So Germany and the USA & Co have no concerns from a strategic point of view.

Turkey would never reject these Siemens turbines, according to the motto "you don't want to deliver, we will contest the purchase contract with a claim for damages and other means".
They will delay this as long as they can until it comes to nothing.
Turkey needs these turbines and since Germany dances to the tune of the USA and Israel and is protected by them, nothing will happen.

All superpowers for example USA/Israel, China/Russia have one thing in common - they do not want another nuclear state that could potentially develop nuclear weapons.

 

[Saithan]

Well I'm interested in what kind of threats we can throw at them that would make them start delivering. I mean obviously they'll try to do the same shit with EF, so I think we should as bare minimum demand they be produced in a country that will deliver them, UK., Spain

I am wondering if the purchase goes through, but they cause trouble with delivery onto our soil just like F35, who are we going to have headbutting with ?

I mean if we have good relations with UK and they get caught up in this, then won't we be straining our relations ?

 

[Shtr]

https://www.endeks24.com/erdogan-savunma-ihracatimiz-56-milyar-dolara-ulasti

It seems that Türkiye's export numbers reached to 5.6B $. Last month was 4.3B$. It might be something wrong on these numbers but I hope it is true.

Congrats

 

[somegoodusername]

Erdogan helped Baykar with massive order. This money flow helped Baykar to grow up. In the second stage, Erdogan threading the export deals with customer. No arms deal, without government permission.

A classical nepotism!

I'm 100% anti-Erdoğan, and I don't have much love for the Bayraktar brothers, but I don't think Baykar's success is tied to government contracts. They offer good products at reasonable prices, and there are no real alternatives to the TB-2 or Akıncı in our domestic market.

However, our military has yet to procure much-needed VTOL drones, despite 3-4 producers having finished products for several years. If the military signs a mass contract with Baykar for their KALKAN drones without opening a tender for other products to compete, that would be 100% corruption.

 

[Ripley]

Seeing Spain is seriously considering Hurjet makes me feel good.

hola señora embajadora. Please buy our stuff. Gracias

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1846931911756628090

Spanish Ambassador Cristina Latorre Sancho visited TAI.
TAI General Manager Mehmet Demiroğlu presented the ambassador with a HÜRJET model.
HÜRJET is competing in the tender opened by Spain for its aircraft needs.

 

[Sanchez]

"We have made a 2nd agreement for KAPLAN APC for the Indonesian Land Forces. 2 prototypes will be produced, one in Turkey and the other at PINDAD facilities in Indonesia. We aim to complete the qualification in 2025 and deliver 2 vehicles in 2026. We hope that order negotiations will continue afterwards."

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1848627734894772633

When was the first agreement? Maybe meaning the Kaplan MT?

 

[Anmdt]

"We have made a 2nd agreement for KAPLAN APC for the Indonesian Land Forces. 2 prototypes will be produced, one in Turkey and the other at PINDAD facilities in Indonesia. We aim to complete the qualification in 2025 and deliver 2 vehicles in 2026. We hope that order negotiations will continue afterwards."

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1848627734894772633

When was the first agreement? Maybe meaning the Kaplan MT?

It is referring to Kaplan MT,
And we have found it out a week ago;

Harimau IFV variant???

I'm guessing that this armored vehicle is going to be unveil at Indo Defence 2024 in November.

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Source: https://m.facebook.com/www.IMIIndonesia/

FNSS has released images a while ago, and gone unnoticed; The landscape looks like Indonesia, as far as i have seen. Looks like a new line of KAPLAN-AFV

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[begturan]

"We have made a 2nd agreement for KAPLAN APC for the Indonesian Land Forces. 2 prototypes will be produced, one in Turkey and the other at PINDAD facilities in Indonesia. We aim to complete the qualification in 2025 and deliver 2 vehicles in 2026. We hope that order negotiations will continue afterwards."

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1848627734894772633

When was the first agreement? Maybe meaning the Kaplan MT?

What are the advantages of Kaplan APC compared to our modernized APCs? Do you think we need new tracked APCs like Kaplan ?

 

[Sanchez]

Do you think we need new tracked APCs like Kaplan

We will have new tracked APCs with second stage of YNZMA program. Unclear if Kaplan APC will join that tender or something else like Kaplan NG.

 

[Huelague]

I'm 100% anti-Erdoğan, and I don't have much love for the Bayraktar brothers, but I don't think Baykar's success is tied to government contracts. They offer good products at reasonable prices, and there are no real alternatives to the TB-2 or Akıncı in our domestic market.

Erdogans nepotism says nothing about Baykars reputation and quality products, which is unmatched.

 

[Umigami]

Indonesian Air Force meeting about F16 upgrade and ADS400 (Turkish Hisar with some Czech systems)

Wakasau Pimpin Rapat Koordinasi Upgrade Pesawat F-16 dan Pengadaan Rudal ADS 400

22 Oktober 2024 Topik bahasan rapat bersama Wakasau (photo: TNI AU) Wakil Kepala Staf Angkatan Udara (Wakasau), Marsekal Madya TNI Andyawan ...

defense-studies.blogspot.com

Highly likely Indonesia will pick Ozgur package instead of lockheed Viper.

 

[IC3M@N FX]

Offtopic: You can accuse Erdogan of many things and he certainly makes mistakes and in general, as a politician you can't do justice to everyone in Turkey, whether good or bad, because there are simply too many interest groups.
But be glad that he not only pushes the arms industry but also promotes it to an unbelievable extent.
All the presidents before him were failures and didn't take any responsibility for their country, and instead kissed the ass of the USA, EU & Co.
Erdogan blackmails them, he negotiates deals, yes he doesn't get everything, but he puts them under pressure, but that's the only way it works in global politics, otherwise others will decide about your country instead of Turkey deciding about itself.

Apart from that, nepotism or not, that has always been the case in Turkey and I emphasize again that it has always been the case, no matter who was president or Basbakan before.
You should also get away from the illusion that there will be no nepotism in Turkey if Erdogan stops at some point, if it is not possible to stop this in the USA and the EU, how can it be stopped in Turkey.

 

[Yasar_TR]

Nijerya ve Filipinler'den ek T-129 ATAK tedariki

T-129 Atak helikopterini halihazırda kullanan Nijerya ve Filipinler'in ek tedarik etmek istediği belirtildi.

www.defenceturk.net

Both Nigeria and Philippines requesting additional T-129 Atak helikopters. Philippines is negotiating for a further 6 units. But Nigeria’s second batch quantity has not yet been released.
This is great news for our defence industry.
Shame about the Pakistani order though.
By this time, we should have been in a position to put in to works a platform with indigenous design with TS1400 military standard engine.