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As Turkey’s most crowded metropolis braces for the possibility of a devastating earthquake, Environment and Urban Planning Minister Murat Kurum says...
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I understand the urgency and feel the same way. If it were up to me, all those buildings would be demolished and rebuilt in paralel. But we also got to consider Turkey's construction capacity. This includes all construction companies and workers within the country. I am sure they all have their plate full with current projects, especially considering the backlog of 1.5 million buildings in Istanbul alone. The minister is not even talking about the rest of the country. On top of that, there are stubborn people that do not want to leave their buildings for various reasons. Some aren't happy with the reperations they are receiving, others cite centimental reasons and memories, while some others are just stubborn and simply do not want to leave the building they are in. Now we can critisize these people, but at the end of the day, when you are dealing with millions of people you will come across all kinds of different characters. Some of them will comply while others will resist. These problems can be overcome. Bigger problem is the availabe capacity within the construction sector.![]()
Some 1.5 mln buildings should be rebuilt, says minister - Türkiye News
Around 1.5 million buildings in Istanbul need to be rebuilt from the ground up for structural integrity, Environment and Urbanization Minister Murat Kurum said on March 2.www.hurriyetdailynews.com
What're you waiting for ? It's been so ever since Izmit...
I understand the urgency and feel the same way. If it were up to me, all those buildings would be demolished and rebuilt in paralel. But we also got to consider Turkey's construction capacity. This includes all construction companies and workers within the country. I am sure they all have their plate full with current projects, especially considering the backlog of 1.5 million buildings in Istanbul alone. The minister is not even talking about the rest of the country. On top of that, there are stubborn people that do not want to leave their buildings for various reasons. Some aren't happy with the reperations they are receiving, others cite centimental reasons and memories, while some others are just stubborn and simply do not want to leave the building they are in. Now we can critisize these people, but at the end of the day, when you are dealing with millions of people you will come across all kinds of different characters. Some of them will comply while others will resist. These problems can be overcome. Bigger problem is the availabe capacity within the construction sector.
Thinking about the construction capacity in Turkey, reminded me of some economists critisizing the Turkish economy because there was too much invested into the construction market. Which I personally never understood (or maybe I didn't quite understand what they were trying to say or otherwise missed something). I mean yeah, you want a diversified economy with focus on manufactering instead of consumption based growth. I get all that and fully agree with that. But regarding the construction market, 'kentsel donusum' (rebuilding or renovating buildings to be earthquake proof) has been going on for years now and it is clear that the major reason for the growth in investment in the construction market has been due to this coupled with infrastructure projects like roads, bridges, tunnels and railways, in which Turkey isn't fully developed in yet either. (assuming infrastructure falls under the construtcion sector as well). If we compare Germany which is a fully developed economy with Turkey (both have similar populations), we can see that Germany has more than twice the installed capacity (211 GW) for energy than Turkey (95 GW in 2020) with the goal being 120 GW by 2023. Germany has a railway network of 41.315 km, while Turkey has only 12.532 km (wikipedia). Similar picture regarding roads:
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Composition of the road network in Germany 2017 | Statista
This statistic shows the length of the road network in Germany at the end of 20167, categorized by road type.www.statista.com
I am not saying this to critisize Turkey by the way. Just saying that we have a long way to go. But I don't want to be all bad news, and say that we are developing pretty fast imo, installed capacity was about 76 GW in 2016 for energy, which is a 26% increase in 4 years, which is not bad imo.![]()
Turkey: length of road network by type 2023 | Statista
The longest type of road in Turkey was village roads, roads without a hard surface, with a total length of 192,502 kilometers.www.statista.com
Why is it wrong to build skyscrapers in Istanbul? Isn't it more efficient to go vertical?The greater issue with the constructions is the lack of QC, the more QC you put in that much more expensive it becomes. For instance if you use sand from the beach in the construction it will contain salt which will erode reinforcement in concrete. Add to that the environmental issues of making concrete.
Construction is such a beast that you actually don't need a diploma to work, only some need a diploma the rest is experience. Which is why EU has had influx of construction workers from all over the place. e.g. western europe gets many from eastern europe, etc. etc.
It is true that if you have too many construction projects then everything becomes more expensive. A construction project in 2008-2013 is/was much cheaper than a construction project after 2014- because the market has been more than saturated.
Which is why it's important to balance government projects to keep the market at a sustainable but also a decent price level.
AKP/RTE hasn't done so, but they were/are on a mission to renew and build infrastructure which should make life much better in Turkey. But of course that mission is executed regardless of cost-benefit analysis. (Well at least that's what I believe).
AKP/RTE allowed the building of skyscrapers in Istanbul, pretty messed ud. With proper city planning and hardcore restrictions of floors Istanbul could have become much better.
if there is a restriction on floors to let's say 5 floors, then many smaller construction firms can build. SME would blossom.