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I just wanted to point out, even in direct comparison the internet is cheaper in countries with higher minimum wage, and higher currency value. The material costs might make up about 20-30 percent, the remaining is personnel cost.
And yes you have just told it, the TT is reviving after TMSF - State has gained power on it due to bankruptcy caused by earlier owner.
So you now accept that, the privatization has messed up Turk Telekom company and once state has gained power and financial power on it, they are getting better at their work and again, they started to work on infrastructure and customer services.

I was actually satisfied with setting up speed because my internet in several cases connected within 2 days after application. Even in case of transfer they came at the day they were appointed at. The problem is ,sometimes in large cities there isn't any available socket in the switch-boxes and you may wait up to months for connection, and still billed for those unused months.

Lets honestly accept, privatization has failed Turk Telekom badly, and it is reviving in last months upon being free from private hands.
After Türk Telekom was privatized, it also married a company with Avea. So I think the problem is not in privatization but somewhere else.
 

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After Türk Telekom was privatized, it also married a company with Avea. So I think the problem is not in privatization but somewhere else.
What I remember of TT privatization in the early 2000's to KSA resulted in financially emptying the company and defaulting on the debt, so the Turkish state had to take it back, Broke, downsized, indebted, emptied.

I remember watching a video with Babacan and even posting an explanation to this a few pages back.

Many things may have happened afterwards to try rebuild the trust and faith in TT. But without transparency and accountability we won't know what exactly.

And a solid investment like communication is a no brainer. Considering the age we're in. You need to be braindead to truly fail. I can give you several examples from Denmark where a startup ends being sold for several billion USD, then the guy goes on and makes another startup and sells it too, in communication field.

In electricity too, newest start up in Denmark "Welcome" (Just in danish though "Velkommen") is already breaking down old ways of doing business and cost cutting on subscription fees and such. This results in massive new customers and turnover, the guy is a billionaire in Dubai now.

Our problem in Turkey is related to having proper investor who wants to invest in the country and not suck it dry, and leave a dead husk of a company behind.

You can only achieve that if you can get the right investor into the land. Telenor was a big loss.
 

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I think this is going to be the future for the time being, Holiday resorts Hapimag style where people are members.

I would recommend that Turkish tourism sector unite and does something similar for massive gains in the future.

100 resort towns with 100.000 capacity and in different location, and different concepts, but overall same high level of treatment and hygienic .

Turkish companies should have similar investment abroad in different countries so their members can travel abroad too. Why stay with non-turk owned hotels if you can get a high quality turkish hotel. Trust me the Arab will come en mass!
 

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This is a serious question: I told you guys couple of weeks ago i bought a new house in a new neighbourhoud. Everything is new, not even 12 months old; the buildings, the street, the road. So i dont know if there is fiber.

It was a empty space 1 year ago.

Now i need internet connection in my house.

Which operator is the best? Because if there is something i hate more than pkk, its low internet.

TT, Vodafone, Turknet ? Which?
 
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This is a serious question: I told you guys couple of weeks ago i bought a new house in a new neighbourhoud. Everything is new, not even 12 months old; the buildings, the street, the road. So i dont know if there is fiber.

It was a empty space 1 year ago.

Now i need internet connection in my house.

Which operator is the best? Because if there is something i hate more than pkk, its low internet.

TT, Vodafone, Turknet ? Which?

I don't know which one is the best. But you can't get "cable net". Because they don't invest in new settlements with a very weak investment network.
 
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After Türk Telekom was privatized, it also married a company with Avea. So I think the problem is not in privatization but somewhere else.
After privatizing, Telekom minimized it's investment but started to distribute profits between share holders. AKP municipalities and ministries blocked other companies investments, so that share of Telekom won't reduced and and they can continue to exploit profits of Telekom. In time, our internet became one of the world's slowest and expensive.

Just look at the board of Telekom

Ömer Fatih Sayan - Vice Minister (AKP)
Yiğit Bulut - pro-AKP journalist

Others also have ties with AKP.

So, in short, AKP elite robs the ordinary people as usual.
 

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I told it so many times. Most important steps. Update of EU customer union. FTA with USA and Iran.
 
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Best way of fixing the economy is to say that we have invented a new mega bomb which can destroy Earth. And black-mail other counties saying that if they don't pay us a Trillion dolar every year we are gonna explode it. We will all be rich.!!!
 

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Turkey economy is similar like chinese in 2000ies, in last twp decades they managed to move from high extensive labour force economy to the high tech oriented products and advanced infrastructure projects.
Without that quality leap, Turkey economy wont be able to solve permanelnty issues that it have randomly overheating, inflation, forex etc....
 

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Turkey: up to 100 Mpbs fiber 330 lira - 34 Euro, fiber to home availability is low, mostly fiber to neighborhood and then via ADSL2- VDSL which again gives up to 100 Mpbs.

France: 1Gpbs fiber 42 Euro - fiber to home availability is high ,VDSL -ADSL2 availability up to 100 Mpbs is wide and cheaper.
Japan: 1 Gpbs fiber 48 Euro, fiber to home is available, or 200 Mpbs at 24 Euro if there is no direct fiber.
South Korea : 1 Gpbs 25-30 Euro fiber to home even in outskirts of cities

These prices are without commitment plans-pure montly prices.

The infrastructure should have been a lot better, we are at 101st place, in the world.
I wish you will never have to deal with Turk Telekom customer services, or technical services. Their first excuse, we offer speeds " up to an amount" and we do not guarantee a "low ping".
Türkiye 1 GB fiber ₺ 270 = € 27.54 where available.

 
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Seems like some members don't like Turkey to have amenities that matches those of the leading countries. They get angry when they see them. :LOL:

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I dont know how it is in Turkey, but the companies lay the cables to the street or a close-by distribution hub and usually house owners pay for the last meters to the building. At least thats how I know it in Germany.

That being said Socar laid hundreds of kilometers of fibre with the TANAP, so the infrastructure is there to reach more people with fibre. I know its small steps but still http://www.socarfiber.com/fiberag-en.html

We should encourage and support road constructions or rail work to lay fibre while they are at it, so costs can be lowered and more people can benefit from it. But at the same time, I do no know if its worth it considering that 5G is around the corner and could make it obsolete.
 

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It’s facking expensive.
In the video the reporter says it is a very good price, that reporter has been in business for decades. The service is of a quality people will pay much more for. And don't shoot the messenger. Cheers.
 

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