TR Air-Force EF Typhoon

[AlperTunga]

We should

Let's buy 12 omani as well on the side that would be nice from 44 to 56 EF. They can serve for training and spares

We should get them and modernize. There was news on Hürriyet that Israel made a strategic offer to Greece to provide advanced technology in F35 capabilities, EW and missile technology both air defence and ballistic including production help etc. So it is very comprehensive. We need to react and maybe a new thread should be opened on this.

 

[Khagan1923]

We don't know if it's going to be ready for delivery; we also don't know the procurement details; nothing is guaranteed. Last week we were getting 12 Omani jets, today we don't know if we do.

we do though as BAE has been awarded a contract by UK MoD for the the full production of 40 radars. Which will probably be integrated onto the 40 Typhoons of the RAF between 2028-2030. We also know our 20+20 EF will be delivered 2030 onward meaning Mk2 will be most likely the radar they will be delivered with.

Im sorry but I don’t get what you are trying to argue against here. Sometimes it feels like some of you guys just argue against things just to be contrarian.

Also comparing the possible purchase of Omani EF to a signed contract is weird. One was never a done thing and MoD mentioned weeks ago that there are still talks to be held with all parties meanwhile we have a signed contract for 20 EF.

and if there is the possibility of Qatar being okay with handing over all 24 EF in inventory of course it makes sense to go with them as they are the superior and younger planes. Though I would still take the Omani ones if they are willing to part with them for cheap.

 

[Sanchez]

we do though as BAE has been awarded a contract by UK MoD for the the full production of 40 radars. Which will probably be integrated onto the 40 Typhoons of the RAF between 2028-2030. We also know our 20+20 EF will be delivered 2030 onward meaning Mk2 will be most likely the radar they will be delivered with.

Im sorry but I don’t get what you are trying to argue against here. Sometimes it feels like some of you guys just argue against things just to be contrarian.

Also comparing the possible purchase of Omani EF to a signed contract is weird. One was never a done thing and MoD mentioned weeks ago that there are still talks to be held with all parties meanwhile we have a signed contract for 20 EF.

and if there is the possibility of Qatar being okay with handing over all 24 EF in inventory of course it makes sense to go with them as they are the superior and younger planes. Though I would still take the Omani ones if they are willing to part with them for cheap.

We don't know the delivery timeline of Mk2s for RAF T3s. Mk2 is touted as being IOC ready by 2030, not 2028. UK still looks at all this as firstly a jobs program; lengthening the timelines work in their favor. MK2 is in testing, LTE is being studied, Phase 4 is still just a thing that exists but not "real".
"He added that work continues with NETMA and Eurofighter partner nations to ensure that “the international programme scope includes all essential UK features, and that these are prioritised to deliver in time for the RAF to test and field the ECRS Mk2 radar by 2030.”

UK says ECRS Mk2 radar timing depends on Eurofighter work

A series of written parliamentary answers has shed light on the remaining obstacles facing delivery of the Typhoon’s new European Common Radar System Mk2, while also clarifying the pace of procurement and the wider Eurofighter enhancement programme.

ukdefencejournal.org.uk

Turkish EF contract with BAE is also not a done thing. Details are still being worked out; we don't know the specifics, delivery timelines and or specific equipment that will be installed. We don't even know what tranche the Turkish EFs will be built under. There was lots of back and forth with Germany in the last year, it might very well be that Mk1 will be installed on them instead, there's nothing announced, we don't know.

 

[Yasar_TR]

UK deploys Typhoon jets to Qatar in Middle East

The deployment involves 12 Squadron, the joint UK–Qatar Typhoon unit, and is being carried out at the invitation of the Qatari government.

ukdefencejournal.org.uk

UK has stationed a squadron of Typhoon jets in Qatar to help protect Qatari airspace at the invitation of Qatari government. The squadron will take on the responsibility of regularly operating in the region for training, deterrence and assurance activity.
It is interesting that this move has come straight after the meeting between Turkish, Qatari and UK defence officials, where the discussions on remaining 12 Qatari Typhoons to join the first 12 going to Türkiye were held.

This news falls in line with the news of Turdef.

 

[Sanchez]

UK deploys Typhoon jets to Qatar in Middle East

The deployment involves 12 Squadron, the joint UK–Qatar Typhoon unit, and is being carried out at the invitation of the Qatari government.

ukdefencejournal.org.uk

UK has stationed a squadron of Typhoon jets in Qatar to help protect Qatari airspace at the invitation of Qatari government. The squadron will take on the responsibility of regularly operating in the region for training, deterrence and assurance activity.
It is interesting that this move has come straight after the meeting between Turkish, Qatari and UK defence officials, where the discussions on remaining 12 Qatari Typhoons to join the first 12 going to Türkiye were held.

This news falls in line with the news of Turdef.

Knowing RAF, it's probably at most 4 planes from 12th Sq. It can be read vis a vis many things; Iran, more defence coop between two; or even the TurAF/RAF joint training. Turdef piece also mentioned keeping aircraft in Qatar for a while until things are ready in Eskişehir probably so that training can be continued concurrently.

 

[Musti82]

We must buy as many Eurofighters as we can.And as we all aware our 23 billion F16V order is kaput! we must focus our 120 next generation fighter to Eurofighters until TF-X Kaans are available. EF-Airbus users are planning to retire current EF-2K Tranche1 variant, maybe we can buy all available ones and establish 3 fleet (72 pieces) and upgrade them with our local OZGUR package. Since we have agreed to have 24+12 Qatar&Oman's EF2Ks-TR3/3A, buy another 12 TR3A from consortium to complement 2 fleet(48 jets) and order 20+28=48 EF2K Tr-4 for TuAF as well.

We are all aware that US will never deliver any F110 engine so it is obvious we will wait for TF-35000 from TEI. And our upgrade for early 204 F16 Block 30/40/50s are o the way.

The remaining 29 F-16 Block50Ms(CFT=Conformal Fuel Tank, variant) can be reduced to 24 to make one fleet or buy 19 F-16V and upgrade them to F16-V as well (which I am totaly againts)

What we need is 480 strong manned fighter jet fleet to complement our ANKA and Red Apple drones,nothing less before 2030.

The only logical way to do it is increasing EF2000 orders. I am also favor for RF-2K Tr5 to be manufactured at TAI.